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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72">Hello Pitinan, <br>
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Please take the proposals to IP as final from NBGP side.<br>
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As already discussions have happened, this are minor final changes, just give 24 hours after submitting to NBGP list and if you don't hear anything take all the proposals to IP.<br>
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You don't need to wait for OK for every LGR proposal.<br>
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Hope it will help to speed up.<br>
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Thanks.<br>
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Ajay <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On March 6, 2019 9:05:18 PM GMT+09:00, Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo@icann.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dear NBGP members, <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Please find attached the Oriya LGR v2.12 dated 6 March 2019. This version has been updated in consultation with Kuldeep and he agreed to publish this package </span>at the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_lgr-2Dproposals-2D2015-2D12-2D01-2Den&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=qAs-z5lsx1qg4ORlIggZJ8rKxoygReIR_xCeVaO37qo&m=1xOFeBQIkM0W8uQB3EgxNnJbMLp5CJSeIJ9khV9VfEo&s=ZmrrWxDVJGrGOJFwr5UEK2G1jwbGpApqS4rz5AXaJu0&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">proposals’ webpage [icann.org]</span></a>.<span style="color:windowtext"><p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">We will inform the NBPG once the files are published. <p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Regards,<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Pitinan<p></p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Pitinan Kooarmornpatana <pitinan.koo@icann.org><br /><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, March 5, 2019 at 22:12<br /><b>To: </b>Kuldeep Patnaik <kuldeep.patnaik3@gmail.com><br /><b>Cc: </b>Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Ajay Data <ajay@data.in>, Udaya Narayana Singh <unsciil51@gmail.com>, Mahesh D Kulkarni <mdk@cdac.in><br /><b>Subject: </b>Oriya LGR v2.12 - 06mar19<p></p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><p> </p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Dear Kuldeep,</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Please find the Oriya LGR Package version 2.12 dated 6 March 2019 as attached. </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">The IP feedback has been incorporated in consultation with you, please see edit log below.</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Kindly review and finalize. Then share the final package to the NBGP list, asking us to publish the package at </span>the <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/lgr-proposals-2015-12-01-en">proposals’ webpage</a> as the final version after public comment.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Regards,</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Pitinan</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Neobrahmigp <neobrahmigp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org><br /><b>Date: </b>Monday, March 4, 2019 at 10:22<br /><b>To: </b>"kuldeep.patnaik3@gmail.com" <kuldeep.patnaik3@gmail.com>, "Neobrahmigp@icann.org" <Neobrahmigp@icann.org><br /><b>Subject: </b>[Neobrahmigp] Oriya LGR v2.11 - 20190220</span></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p></div><p>Dear Kuldeep and NBGP members,</p><p></p><p>IP has suggested some minor edits to consider before final submission of the proposal, listed in their message below. </p><p></p><p>As next steps, once these edits are incorporated, the proposal will be published at the <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/lgr-proposals-2015-12-01-en">proposals’ webpage</a> as the final version after public comment, and then IP will undertake its evaluation.</p><p></p><div><div><p>Regards,<br />Sarmad</p><p></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" /></div><p>TO: NeoBrahmi Generation Panel<br />FROM: Integration Panel</p><p></p><p>We have reviewed the updated Oriya proposal dated 20 Feb 2019 and found several issues that require a quick fix, plus a few additional suggestions for improved text. In one case identical text in DOCx and XML relies on terminology not defined in either document - this requires new text to be written by the GP that gives the necessary explanation in terms the (non-native/non-expert) reader can follow.</p><p></p><p>The required fixes apply to both the document and the XML.</p><p></p><p>There is an additional MUST FIX item each for DOCx and XML as a result of clerical error in preparing the LGR. <br /><br />Additional edits are recommended to the attention of the GP.</p><p></p><p>- Integration Panel</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>DOCX</b>:</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(1) MUST FIX: on p. 20 the Unicode name for 0B2F was unaccountably changed from YA to JA and now incorrectly duplicates the name for 0B1C. (Oriya has both a JA and a YA.) </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This change should be backed out and the correct character name YA used for 0B2F.</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4"> Done.</span></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(2) both the proposal and the XML mention the word "varga" without explaining it. This is most likely due to some copying and pasting of text from other proposals. However, non-specialist readers will not be able to understand the description of Anusvara in Oriya if it relies on terms not introduced in the proposal document. Here are the two uses in Section 3.11:</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">"that particular varga" --- which one?</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">"non-varga consonant" --- what is that?<br /><br /><br /></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This should definitely be fixed, even if it requires a bit of new/rewritten text. The IP recommendation is to either rewrite the description without relying on the term "varga", or find a way to gloss the term in passing; alternatively, provide a fuller discussion (more appropriate for the DOCx than the XML).</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <span style="color:#4472C4">Updated the paragraph to be: </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4">Anusvara replaces a conjunct group of a Nasal Consonant+Halant+Consonant belonging to that particular varga (plosive), representing a homorganic nasal. Before a non-varga (non-plosive) consonant the Anusvara represents a nasal sound. For example: </span><span lang="OR" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">ଏବଂ/</span><span style="color:#4472C4">ēbaṁ /(U+0B0F, U+0B2C, U+0B02) (means: and), </span><span lang="OR" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",sans-serif;color:#4472C4">ସଂଖ୍ୟା/ </span><span style="color:#4472C4">saṁkhyā / (U+0B38, U+0B02, U+0B16, U+0B4D, U+0B5F, U+0B3E) (means: number), etc.</span></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>XML</b></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the Section "Character Classes"</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(1) the subsection for Halant could be edited as follows:</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <p>Halant: A Halant, also known as Virama, is used after a consonant to "strip" <br /> it of its inherent vowel. The Halant form of a consonant is the form produced by adding the Halant, <br /> encoded as U+0B4D (<span lang="OR" style="font-family:"Arial Unicode MS",sans-serif"> ୍ ) </span>ORIYA SIGN VIRAMA<br /> to the nominal shape. A Halant follows all but the last consonant in every Oriya <br /> syllable. More details in Section 3.7, "The Implicit Vowel Killer Halant" of the [Proposal].</p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The subsection header should be the name of the character class, not the title of the section in the proposal; other suggested edits are for consistency.</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4"> Done.</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(2) This also applies to the subsection for Visarga:</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <p>Visarga: U+0B03 ORIYA SIGN VISARGA is frequently used in Sanskrit and represents a sound <br /> very close to /h/. More details in Section 3.9, "Visarga & Avagraha" of the [Proposal].</p></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The "Avagraha" is not part of the repertoire in this XML and therefore this subsection should be named only after the Visarga (even if the proposal subsection does discuss both).</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4">Done.</span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br /><br /><br /><br /></p><p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(3) Nasalization: Candrabindu: section in <description>.</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">First, "Nasalization" is not a character class, therefore, it ought to be made a subheader.</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Change <p>Nasalization: Candrabindu ... </p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">to </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <h3>Nasalization:</h3><br /> <p>Candrabindu....</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4">Done.</span></p><p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(4) in the Anusvara: section, there is the use of "varga" which is not explained in the XML (and which presents a real problem for the integrated Root Zone LGR as users are normally not expected to read the [Proposal] first.)</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This must be reformulated (see comment for DOCx above). The same (or similar) language should be used in both DOCx and XML, if possible, but keeping in mind the different focus: readers of the XML care more about how a character class is used in identifiers than how it features in writing text. </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">This is a MUST FIX.</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(5) in the WLE rules section, perhaps add the number of each WLE rule as follows:</p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <li>1. N: must be preceded only by C1</li><br /> <li>1. B: must be preceded by V, C, N or M</li><br /> <li>3. X: must be preceded by V, C, N or M</li><br /> <li>4. D: must be preceded by V, C, N or M</li><br /> <li>5. H: must be preceded by C or N</li><br /> <li>6. M: must be preceded by C or N</li></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4">Done. ( 1 – 6 ) </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">(6) MUST FIX:</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> In the XML, the type attribute of the <var> elements for 101D and 1031 should be "out-of-repertoire-var" and not "out-of-repertoire".</p><p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#4472C4"> Done.</span></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>TXT</b></p><p></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <b><i>No changes, so not tested.</i></b></p><p></p><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" /></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><br /><br /><br /><br /></p><p></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> </p><p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p></p></div></div></div>
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