[Npoc-discuss] Election Reporting situation

Raymond Mamattah mamattah.raymond at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 19:37:17 UTC 2023


Hi all,

In as much as the election reporting error should have not happened, but
the reality is that it has already happened. As someone rightly said,
seeing people who call themselves your friends voting against you can be
disheartening and could cost some relationships.

However, I suggest we do not "fight" our supporting Org staff who have
worked with us so well all these while. There is a proverb in Ghana that
says that you cannot throw away a baby in the bath water! This is to say
that no matter how angry you are, we should take time to consider the
outcome of our reactions.

On this note, I suggest we let the issue go, without necessarily writing to
staff to show our displeasure. It has already happened. Let us move on in
unity as always.

Regards,
Raymond Mamattah
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On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 6:03 PM Jean F. Quéralt via Npoc-discuss <
npoc-discuss at icann.org> wrote:

> Absolutely onboard with that.
>
>
> Jean F. Queralt
> Founder & CEO - The IO Foundation <http://www.TheIOFoundation.org>
> Book a meeting <http://TIOF.Click/BookJFQ> (30 minutes)
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 at 01:51, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jean
>> I understand your position that we need to move forward  but  I would
>> like to suggest the EC  craft a strong statement to staff so that they are
>> formal notice  by  community  that this error isn't a simple mistake but a
>> critical error which requires them to come clean on the mistake and provide
>> a move forward strategy.  I am not suggesting they beat themselves with
>> sticks but acknowledgement is the first step and assurances that its a
>> lesson learnt and moving onward with adequate protocals.
>> G
>> Glenn McKnight, MA
>> Virtual School of Internet Governance
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>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 at 13:43, Jean F. Quéralt via Npoc-discuss <
>> npoc-discuss at icann.org> wrote:
>>
>>> About this subject, I'd like to make some comments at a personal level.
>>>
>>> - I did not see that the voting was appended to the posted document. I
>>> only paid attention to the first page with the results.
>>> - I got to know that something went wrong when reading further comments
>>> on the thread.
>>> - Yes, it's a really bad look and should have never happened.
>>> - I made the conscious decision to not look into the document after the
>>> fact (just the idea of it gives me cancer)
>>>
>>> Why am I mentioning this?
>>>
>>> Because I don't care who voted for whom and no one should either.
>>> It is incumbent upon us to make sure that the expected rules of the
>>> process are observed and respected and this no matter the circumstances.
>>>
>>> *If we have the right to vote, we also have the responsibility to
>>> protect the voting mechanism and anything revolving around it.*
>>> Taking advantage of looking into who voted to whom is akin to breaking
>>> the Chatham House Rule.
>>>
>>> For as much as I am concerned, I am elected to help all NPOC, not only
>>> those who voted for me. I am not interested in knowing, I am interested in
>>> getting things done.
>>>
>>> Obviously I hope that this situation does not happen again (and this
>>> should be a ticket to fix with the new chairs) and as far as I am
>>> concerned, I am moving page and looking forward to work on Comms.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jean F. Queralt
>>> Founder & CEO - The IO Foundation <http://www.TheIOFoundation.org>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 22:21, Johan Helsingius via Npoc-discuss <
>>> npoc-discuss at icann.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/06/2023 23:22, Glenn McKnight via Npoc-discuss wrote:
>>>> > I  don't  know if the election reporting is a normal protocol for
>>>> NPOC
>>>> > or its a simple error to reveal how everyone votes.   Regardless we
>>>> have
>>>> > a serious  situation that needs to be addressed asap as it  will
>>>> clearly
>>>> > be escalated and ignoring it isn't a good option.   A  reelection
>>>> seems
>>>> > logical but not sure if it would generate any change in the results.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Definitely not normal - it was an administrative double error.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately a re-election won't rectify the situation. The results of
>>>> the election are not dependent on the publishing of who voted for whom,
>>>> and the damage in terms of violating confidentiality has already
>>>> happened and can't be undone.
>>>>
>>>> All we can do is ensure it won't happen again.
>>>>
>>>>         Julf
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