<div dir="ltr">Hi Volker, <div><br></div><div>I was not expecting you to draft a recommendation but as the Rapporteur you are responsible for drafting the findings and analysis of the report. I gladly took that on for the first F2F because I knew you were deep into GDPR compliance but it appears that you now have time to comment and or edit so it seems appropriate that you would go back and review the report and update it with any new findings and analysis, frankly really think about it and do the work you agreed to do. . We all have our work to do and right now with the Temp Spec I am buried deep in other work. </div><div><br></div><div>As for the recommendation I will take another look at it and see if there are compromises we can agree to. </div><div><br></div><div>Susan </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>You are right, but I am not sure how easiness of drafting
improves the quality of the draft. I always feel it is better for
the proposer of a recommendation to take the first pitch to ensure
the wording matches the original intent.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
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<div class="m_6716929754847818377moz-cite-prefix">Am 07.06.2018 um 19:09 schrieb Susan
Kawaguchi:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Volker,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I can add more rationale to the recommendation but it would
be very helpful if you drafted the report since you are
rapporteur for this subgroup. It is very easy to edit other's
drafting but it takes much more time to draft the initial
report. </div>
<div><br>
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<div>Once you have drafted the subgroup report I will add
rationale. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Susan </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Volker
Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span>
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<p>Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>thanks for asking. No progress has been made at this
point with regard to the completion of section 5. It
would be helpful if the proposer of the recommendation
would look into putting some more meat on the bones. As
it stands, I would not support the recommendation myself
since it is completely unsupported by any rationale,
impact statement or feasability review. While I agree
that the proposed metrics would be nice to have, I am
unclear about the benefits.</p>
<p>I also note the original recommendation does not
request metrics. These metrics would have been helpful
to our work in assessing the effectiveness of the common
interface, but beyond that?</p>
<p>If we stick to the recommendation, we should be clear
that this is a recommendation targetting ICANN to
provide better data on their portal, so its
effectiveness can be better reviewed. <br>
</p>
<p>Volker<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"> Hi Volker and Susan,<br>
<br>
How are things coming on a final update to the Common
Interface subgroup report? <br>
<br>
<a href="http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/rds-whois2-comminterface/attachments/20180524/d6e8a7d5/Subgroup1-Rec11CommonInterface-Report-Draft2-0001.docx" target="_blank">
http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/<wbr>rds-whois2-comminterface/attac<wbr>hments/20180524/d6e8a7d5/Subgr<wbr>oup1-Rec11CommonInterface-<wbr>Report-Draft2-0001.docx<br>
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</a>Does the subgroup need to meet to finalize this
report? Or do you plan to send an updated report to the
subgroup with a last call for agreement or objections?<br>
<br>
Once agreed by the subgroup, staff can start folding the
subgroup's findings into draft slides for ICANN62.<br>
<br>
Please do let me know if I can be of any help to you in
progressing the subgroup's report -<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa<br>
<br>
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At 09:35 PM 5/24/2018, Lisa Phifer wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="m_6716929754847818377m_-4927615142701927960cite">Volker, Susan - <br>
<br>
As requested, attached please find an updated draft of
this subgroup's report which includes the common
interface agreements reached at the F2F meeting.<br>
<br>
In addition, I have copied relevant text from the
problem/issue section into the recommendations section
(worded as may be appropriate for a recommendation).
The subgroup should review/refine and then agree upon
that recommendation - in particular, see highlighted
placeholders that need to be fleshed out.<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa<br>
<br>
<br>
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Rec #11: Common Interface subgroup members,<br>
 <br>
We would like to kindly remind you that <b>tomorrow
– 24 May 23:59 UTC is the agreed deadline to
submit your subgroup report to the review
team.<br>
 <br>
The latest version of your report is saved
here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/71604720/SK%20Final%20Subgroup1-Rec11CommonInterface-Report-Draft1.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1523632890000&api=v2" target="_blank">
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.<br>
 <br>
Your dedicated subgroup wiki page: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/8JlEB" target="_blank">
https://community.icann.org/x/<wbr>8JlEB</a>
.<br>
 <br>
Similar to the preparatory work for the draft
report you presented in Brussels, your ICANN
support team is available to help you reflect
Brussels discussions into your final report.
If you need ICANN org to provide suggested
language, please reach out to us at <a href="mailto:rds-whois2-staff@icann.org" target="_blank">rds-whois2-staff@icann.org</a>
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