[RDS-WHOIS2-IDNS] Initial letter

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Dec 15 17:56:56 UTC 2017


After doing a brief review of the three 
IDN-related Recommendation from the first WHOIS 
RT, here are my conclusions. Note I am not an IDN 
expert, but have been involved in these discussions for quite some time.

Rec 12 and 13 seem to have been fully addressed, 
with further action pending the GNSO RDS PDP. 
Clearly we need to review the Recs and reports in 
details, but superficially, that seems to be the 
case. Translated/transliterated may be a bit more 
difficult, because my recollection is that the 
report leaves open a lot of questions.

Rec 14 I find more difficulty as it was looking 
at accuracy and metrics for accuracy and I am not 
at all sure how it can be marked as complete when 
the internationalized data has not yet been implemented.

So for "Questions we will need to answer in 
assessing whether the objective has been 
reached", the answer is that we need to verify 
that the reports address all aspects of the Rec. 
issues, up to the point where they need to be implemented.

I would put the complexity at 3, since it will 
take careful work to assess how well the work is 
done since we cannot rely on final results  - 
those are impossible until we have a new RDS that 
handles the internationalized data (and multiple 
forms for translated/transliterated data).

Workload I put at a 2. Not much more than 
carefully reading the Recs and their background and the reports.

Team size I would put at 3. If 3 of us can agree, I think that is enough.

New data (in addition to the written briefings we 
are already asking for), only perhaps a 
discussion with the SMEs within ICANN on the 
difficulty of proceeding. No external experts.

Related to EAI, I really don't see the issue. If 
the new RDS fields can hold names and addresses 
using multiple scripts, why is the e-mail address 
a special case?  Worthy of double checking with 
an RDAP expert, but I am not expecting anything 
other than a confirmation that the e-mail address 
is just another field. It IS interesting in that 
the part to the right of the @ sign could be 
stored either in its own natural language or in 
punycode, but I don't think that is more than a 
technical decision on which way to go.

At 04/12/2017 02:00 PM, Dmitry Belyavsky wrote:

>Hello,
>
>Let’s make an initial discussion of the scope of our subgroup.
>I kindly ask Lili and Alan to share their ideas 
>on our duties not later than December 7.
>
>According to Susan's letter
>
>=============
>Please note that the following actions will need 
>to be achieved by December 12, 2017:
>
>Establish mandate, objectives and timeline for the work
>
>Determine topics for investigation and validate against ICANN Bylaws
>
>Identify briefings/data sources needed
>
>Determine requirements for independent expert(s) 
>and – if necessary – develop statement of work
>
>Adopt statement of work and assoociated work plan
>
>================
>
>I tried to describe my understanding below, so 
>any feedback is welcome. After that let's convert it to plan.
>
>As for now, I do not think we need conference 
>calls, especially taking into account our 
>geographical distribution. I hope we can just use mailing list for most cases.
>
>
>I suggest to start from the analysis of the RT1 
>recommendation and actions/decisions taken by 
>board according to the materials of Briefing on 
>WHOIS Recommendations [1], WHOIS Review 
>Executive Summaries [2] and Detailed Quarterly 
>Implementation Report on WHOIS Improvements[3].
>
>
>According to [2], p.23, “Implementation plan 
>to be developed” but I have no idea what it is 
>related to. According to [3] p.6, the 
>implementation plan should be the part of 
>completing Recommendation 13. Both 
>Recommendations 12 and 13 are described as 
>completed. If it is OK, I do not see what are we 
>to do with it. According to [1] p.17 there is no 
>recommendations by IRT to be implemented yet. So 
>I think that we can just mention this situation and it will be OK.
>
>
>Regarding Recommendation 14, I think we have a 
>previously-absent circumstances. I mean Email 
>Address International (EAI). I know that at 
>least some ccTLDs allow using such email 
>addresses as email addresses of registrants. I 
>expect that sooner or later EAI will be allowed 
>in EPP protocol used in gTLDs so we need to say 
>something about it. At least we must raise the 
>question whether EAI addresses are RDAP-compatible in this or that way.
>
>According to [3] p.7, “Internationalized 
>registration data (IRD) for WHOIS Records are 
>being proactively identified in Phase I and 
>Phase II of ARS reports”. But the EAI case was not covered.
>
>[1] 
><https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279139/WHOIS%20Briefing%20-%2028September2017%20-%20V2.0.pptx?version=1&modificationDate=1506686336000&api=v2>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/69279139/WHOIS%20Briefing%20-%2028September2017%20-%20V2.0.pptx?version=1&modificationDate=1506686336000&api=v2
>
>[2] 
>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54691767/WHOIS%20Recs%201_16%2030Sept2016.pdf
>
>[3] 
><https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54691767/WHOIS%20Quarterly%20Summary%2031December2016.pdf>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/54691767/WHOIS%20Quarterly%20Summary%2031December2016.pdf
>
>
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