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<p>Hi Lisa and subgroup members,</p>
<p>I reviewed the comment but the content in the final report
recommendation does not contradict the original statement.
Periodic checks are not envisioned, instead the same standards as
in the RAA apply, where re-checks would only occur upon occurrence
of certain trigger events. <br>
</p>
<p>To clarify, we may want to include a line along those lines:<br>
"Instead, the validation and verification requirements included in
the 2013 RAA or its successor agreements will be applied in a
consistent manner."</p>
<p>Any objections to this?</p>
<p>As for the rationale question in the second bullet, it had been
decided early on in the work that the obligations of registrars
would be used as a model for service provider so not to hold them
to a different standard. The second bullet could therefore be
rephased as follows:</p>
<p>"The IRT decided against periodic due diligence checks as no such
checks are envisioned in the 2013 RAA, the standards of which
served as a model for service provider obligations, thereby
harmonizing the obligations of both registrars and service
providers."</p>
<p>Any objections?</p>
<p>Regarding the request for clarification, I had responded on May
02:</p>
<p>regarding the issues you requested clarification:</p>
<p>Issue #1 is directed at the current discussions in the PPSAI IRT
regarding the fee structure proposed by ICANN for such service
providers. ICANN currently proposes fees to be charged by ICANN to
service providers for the accreditation that are comparable to the
annual fees payable by accredited registrars, minus the variable
component. As many providers are offering this service for free or
nominal fees, any cost increase would significantly impact their
ability to contiue to provide the service, more so than any of the
formal or practice requirements. Contracted parties have argued
that this program providers no actual benefit to the providers and
is essentially only an additional set of obligations. Adding
additional costs ontop of that may cause unaffiliated providers to
attempt to circumvent the policy by various means, rendering the
policy useless. It was argued that it is in the best interest of
the ICANN community to ensure broad adoption of the program by
providers and as its benefits solely the community, it should be
the ICANN community, not the service providers that pick up the
bill, by means of the ICANN budget. <br>
</p>
<p>Additionally ICANN has continually claimed that these fees were
on a cost recovery basis, yet has failed to provide any itemized
details on how that figure has been arrived at, especially
considering statements from ICANN compliance that no additional
personnel is expected to be needed for this program and statements
from ICANN that these costs would remain the same regardless of
whether only one or one million providers sought accreditation. <br>
</p>
<p>Issue #2 revolves around the expectation that GDPR compliance
would take care of many of the reasons why registrants opt for
privacy services in the first place. This is expected to cause an
industry-wide drop in the use of these services as many of its
functions would now be available "for free" as the default. Many
have questioned the need for the continued existence of such
services after May 25. As a result, the recommendation may have
outlived its usefulness. I am sure this impact will not be fully
visible by the time we finalize our report, but we should be
cognisant in it of the ongoing changes and their potential
impacts.<br>
</p>
I hope this helps to understand the background on these issues.<br>
<br>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 06.06.2018 um 06:31 schrieb Lisa
Phifer:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:6.2.3.4.2.20180605212130.092a17d8@mail.corecom.com">
Hi Volker and Rec10 subgroup,<br>
<br>
As requested, attached is an updated draft for the subgroup's
consideration which adds language suggested by Volker in 25 May
email.
Please confirm that the redlined insertion at the bottom of page 6
accurately reflects your intent.<br>
<br>
In addition, to help focus attention on open areas, previous
redlines
were accepted, except for unresolved in-line comments:<br>
<br>
- Page 5, Objective 6: See "DISAGREE" and redlined text that
follows<br>
- Page 7, Issues 1 & 2: At the F2F, the RT requested Volker
clarify
these<br>
<br>
Closure on these open areas is still needed before finalizing this
subgroup report.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Lisa<br>
<br>
<br>
At 07:37 AM 6/5/2018, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hi Lisa,<br>
<br>
if there are no objections from Susan or the other team members,
I would
propose to update the draft to include these changes. <br>
<br>
I am aware that Lili made a reference to the general question of
accuracy
of underlying data, but that is not something that we have or
can
reasonable expect to obtain reliable data on, so I would suggest
leaving
that out.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
Am 02.06.2018 um 22:03 schrieb Lisa Phifer:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hi Volker and
Susan,<br>
<br>
Following up on this report as well...<br>
<br>
I haven't seen anything further from the privacy/proxy
subgroup since
Susan's latest draft:<br>
<br>
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<br>
Do you plan to update the draft as Volker suggested below and
then send
the subgroup-agreed report to the full RT?<br>
<br>
Thanks for your confirmation. As always, if I can be of help,
do let me
know -<br>
<br>
Best, Lisa<br>
<br>
<br>
At 10:08 AM 5/25/2018, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hi Susan, <br>
<br>
I have no further comments. As we are basically looking at
work in
progress, there is little to say on this issue. We may want
to include
language that between the RAA 2013 Spec and this policy, the
original
recommendation seems to have been adressed. Anything not
adressed was
clearly not deemed to be important for inclusion by the
community, the
GNSO and the board who all approved the PDP final report.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
Am 24.05.2018 um 03:41 schrieb Susan Kawaguchi:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hello All,ÂÂ
<br>
<br>
I made a few edits to the report. Please review and
let's see if
we can get this draft submitted tomorrow. <br>
<br>
Susan <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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