[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Public WHOIS After May 2018

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Thu Dec 7 09:06:34 UTC 2017


This just came in:

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/falque-pierrotin-to-chalaby-marby-06Dec17-en.pdf

The Article 29 WP wrote ICANN again, reiterating their position against 
public whois very clearly. As the WP is made up of the DPAs that would 
actually enforce the GDPR, the letter cannot be understood in any other 
way as than a warning to ICANN and by extention its contracted parties 
to make sure everything is compliant by May 25 next year. They also go 
out of their way to clarify why they do not agree with any of the many 
reasons usually given how public whois could be legal processing after all.

Even though the letter does not contain anything new to those that have 
paid any attention in the past ten years, it it unprecedented in its 
clarity.

Best,

Volker


Am 06.12.2017 um 11:28 schrieb Erika Mann:
> Volker, hi -
>
> yes, that's correct. A given consent can be withdrawn. Nonetheless the 
> legitimate interest based clauses remain (processing data lawfully) 
> remain intact, in particular in relation to data between business 
> entities.
>
> I spoke few days ago to Butterelli who's the head of the European Data 
> Protection Supervisor and he said that he's expecting that remaining 
> guidelines from the entity he's overseeing will be issued in February 
> 2018. Many things will become clearer then. Keep in mind the GDPR is a 
> messy law, insofar as many legal interpretations were not included in 
> the law but need further explanations (guidelines). One needs to keep 
> in mind as well that the ECJ will allow national interpretations that 
> go beyond the GDPR, in particular in consumer right areas.
>
> It's a messy process.
>
> I'm finalizing by the end of next week a short overview about all the 
> aspects one needs to consider. Happy to share this with this group. 
> This overview is done for companies based outside the EU in a major 
> third country.
>
> Cheers,
> Erika
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Volker Greimann 
> <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Erika,
>
>     interesting, but I do not see how to construct voluntary, freely
>     given consentin this context. Sure, we can ask registrants to give
>     consent, but they must be free to refuse it or withdraw it at a
>     later time without consequence to their registration request.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Volker
>
>
>     Am 06.12.2017 um 11:10 schrieb Erika Mann:
>>     Not even fully accurate. One can continue to publish core data
>>     based on legitimate interest grounds and with an explicit consent
>>     declaration. I think people are not really understanding the GDPR
>>     well.
>>
>>     Erika
>>
>>     On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Carlton Samuels
>>     <carlton.samuels at gmail.com <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         ..this fella says he's only reporting what TUCOWS say a
>>         public whois record would resemble come GDPR implementation
>>         next year.
>>
>>         https://domainnamewire.com/2017/12/05/wow-public-whois-look-like-2018/
>>         <https://domainnamewire.com/2017/12/05/wow-public-whois-look-like-2018/>
>>
>>
>>         -Carlton
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