[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Compliance subgroup draft report

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Wed Jun 6 08:18:51 UTC 2018


Hi Lili,

as I said, this is already part of the current practice. And we cannot 
base our recommendations on belief, only on fact.

Volker


Am 06.06.2018 um 05:37 schrieb SUN Lili:
>
> Hi Volker,
>
> If a WHOIS ARS ticket, or Whois inaccuracy complaint was a result of 
> no validation and/or verification of registrar, I do recommend a 
> follow up audit, since I tend to believe that will not be a standalone 
> case. In this context, the Audit Program doesn’t accommodate this 
> recommendation efficiently.
>
> The text of the recommendation may be refined later.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lili
>
> *From:*Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 June, 2018 11:08 PM
> *To:* SUN Lili <L.SUN at interpol.int>
> *Cc:* rds-whois2-rt at icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Compliance subgroup draft report
>
> Hi Lili,
>
> if that is what you meant, then your suggested recommendation should 
> be reworded, as I read it to mean that an audit should be triggered 
> automatically upon receipt of one inaccuracy complant or ARS report, 
> outside the regular audit cycle, regardless of when they had been 
> previously audited. Being audited each time whenever we  receive a 
> first notice is not something I or any registrar would accept. 
> Especially since the recommendation did not even specify that the 
> complaint must be ultimately correct.
>
> If I now understand you correctly, your recommendation is actually 
> superfluous as ICANN is already doing that as has been confirmed 
> repeatedly by compliance in the regular registrar-compliance meetings 
> held at ICANN. That does not contradict the statement that registrars 
> are not rated. The selection program for the audit is somewhat opaque 
> and you will not know if you will be audited (and in effect be forced 
> to waste about a complete man-month of ressources for this make-work 
> exercise) until you receive the notice. Compliance (Maguy) has said 
> (on the record, which I have no time to dig up right now) that they 
> will ensure registrars that receive significantly higher numbers of 
> complaints than the average will be more likely to be part of the next 
> audit cycle. So what I now assume you are recommending is already 
> being done. This is also confirmed by the compliance response you 
> included, in factor number 3 of the audit criteria.
>
> Best,
>
> Volker
>
> Am 05.06.2018 um 16:54 schrieb SUN Lili:
>
>     *Recommendation:*
>
>     Following a valid WHOIS ARS ticket, or Whois inaccuracy complaint,
>     an full audit targeting the relating registrar should be
>     initiated, to check if the registrar follows the contractual
>     obligations, the consensus policies, etc. Sanctions should be
>     applied if deficiencies identified.
>
>     *Findings:*
>
>
>
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