[RDS-WHOIS2-RT] ICANN takes legal action in respect to GDPR
Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Wed May 30 16:27:13 UTC 2018
One thing that every critic gets wrong is that in most European
legislation, the vagueness is intentional and regulations and laws are
much more reliant on interpretation. This allows for a broader cover
than specific language, but also for more diverse ways of
interpretation. In effect, those tasked with implementation are a lot
freer in how to do so.
Best
Volker
Am 30.05.2018 um 17:59 schrieb Chris Disspain:
> Seems like it’s not just ‘ICANN’ that is not a fan of GDPR...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>>
>> EU data privacy laws are likely to create barriers to trade
>>
>> GDPR creates serious, unclear legal obligations for both private and
>> public entities
>>
>> WILBUR ROSS [FT.COM]
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ft.com_stream_c282e9be-2Dedd9-2D3de8-2D8b0c-2De697dd30c800&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=W6FGoh-o78gkKZN3_sXelY30VwoSX288Wo9XnUkQrK8&m=VfOhFAsJy97RwESrvrnrTSkhx0uJWaGvNSqGXGumqxQ&s=56fGyMUXCEaAk52abfL-oQIioE_ZnquZH-AW2j9iMIg&e=>
>>
>> We in the US are deeply concerned about the way the EU’s new privacy
>> guidelines, which came into effect last week, will force big changes
>> in the way US and European companies do business.
>>
>> Donald Trump’s administration supports the new General Data
>> Protection Regulation’s goal of protecting personal online data while
>> continuing to enable transatlantic data exchange. We are also
>> committed to working with the EU to implement the new guidelines.
>>
>> We believe that data-sharing rules must respect privacy and protect
>> our shared interests of maintaining public safety and the easy
>> functioning of the internet, while also taking into account the
>> regulatory, scientific, and commercial needs of all our countries. As
>> currently envisioned, GDPR’s implementation could significantly
>> interrupt transatlantic co-operation and create unnecessary barriers
>> to trade, not only for the US, but for everyone outside the EU.
>>
>> The US thrives because it has an open, entrepreneurial society that
>> encourages innovation and embraces technological advances. We believe
>> consumers benefit because they enjoy the digital products and
>> services that are invented and brought to market by US companies.
>>
>> Complying with GDPR will exact a significant cost, particularly for
>> small and medium-sized enterprises and consumers who rely on digital
>> services and may lose access and choice as a result of the
>> guidelines. US companies have already invested billions of dollars to
>> comply with the new rules. But even as companies update their privacy
>> policies to bring themselves in line, many uncertainties remain.
>>
>> GDPR creates serious, unclear legal obligations for both private and
>> public sector entities, including the US government. We do not have a
>> clear understanding of what is required to comply. That could disrupt
>> transatlantic co-operation on financial regulation, medical research,
>> emergency management co-ordination, and important commerce. It could
>> threaten public welfare on both sides of the Atlantic. US and
>> European financial services regulators may be impeded from carrying
>> out important activities: for example, it is unclear whether EU
>> supervisors can share information with the US for compliance exams
>> and other oversight.
>>
>> Pharmaceutical companies may not be able to submit medical data from
>> drug trials involving European patients to US authorities, which
>> could delay the approval of new life-saving drugs. The Centers for
>> Disease Control and Prevention could be restricted in sharing
>> information with European counterparts while responding to the
>> outbreak of diseases such as Ebola. And the US Postal Service
>> believes the new rules will prevent EU postal operators from
>> providing the personal data on individuals it needs to process
>> inbound mail.
>>
>> GDPR also raises concern for law enforcement and intellectual
>> property rights by restricting access to publicly available internet
>> domain-name registration data. We anticipate companies will either
>> stop providing “Whois” look-up services outright, or make it hard to
>> access the information. That could stop law enforcement from
>> ascertaining who is behind websites that propagate terrorist
>> information, sponsor malicious botnets or steal IP addresses.
>>
>> These important activities need to be weighed carefully against
>> privacy concerns. They are critical to building trust in the
>> internet, safeguarding infrastructure, and protecting the public. Our
>> respect for privacy does not have to come at the expense of public
>> safety.
>>
>> We must find a way to implement GDPR without creating undue barriers.
>> Privacy is an important and timely issue, but it also is a complex
>> one. The guidance on GDPR implementation is too vague. EU authorities
>> must provide clearer rules and a more predictable regulatory
>> environment to support investment and innovation. We ask them to act
>> quickly so that GDPR can be properly implemented.
>>
>> The writer is the US commerce secretary
>>
>
> On 30 May 2018, at 15:45, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com
> <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> I read the pleading eventually and in fairness to Jones Day, they
>> threw everything they got into their filing, the baby and bathwater
>> included. So naturally the overreach on trademark and content
>> regulation that Milton and them getting excited about made its way there.
>>
>> Comparing the arguments presented to the directives of the GDPR, self
>> defeat seems evident. So maybe it is a fiendishly clever legal
>> strategy at play and this is a test case to get a few markers down
>> for the big one. But from the pleadings of facts and intended
>> outcome, this one, IMHO, is as weak as a strain of denatured bacteria.
>>
>> -Carlton
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Volker Greimann
>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Of course he will. ICANN has been acting ill-advised from the
>> start. Instead of embracing GDPR and its impact and taking the
>> essence of the regulation at heart and building upon that basis,
>> ICANN ORG (and parts of the community) has been shirking its
>> responsibilites until this day and continued to search for
>> loopholes, excemptions and ways around it.
>>
>> The law suit is just the latest example of this painful process,
>> where ICANN now is specifically expanding its mandate to define a
>> purpose for the collection of certain data.
>>
>> Some excellent reading material on this issue can be found here:
>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/05/28/the-injunction-icanns-lame-attempt-to-turn-dns-into-a-trademark-registry/
>> <https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/05/28/the-injunction-icanns-lame-attempt-to-turn-dns-into-a-trademark-registry/>
>>
>> Best,
>> Volker
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a feeling Schrems will likely triumph before ICANN.
>>>
>>> -Carlton
>>>
>>>
>>> ==============================
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>>>
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Alan Greenberg
>>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en
>>> <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en>
>>>
>>> For those who might not have noticed, on Friday, ICANN
>>> announced that it has filed injunction proceedings against a
>>> German registrar (associated with TUCOWS) that had informed
>>> ICANN that under the GDPR, it would no longer be collecting
>>> certain data (Admin and Technical contact info).
>>>
>>> Collection is a critical step, in that if data is not
>>> collected, it cannot be released to accredited parties, no
>>> matter how good their justification is.
>>>
>>> As I understand it (and that could be wrong), this is an
>>> interesting step, in that it takes the issue out of the
>>> hands of data commissioners and into the courts, where
>>> presumably ICANN will be given an opportunity to explain why
>>> it believes that such collection is important. Although data
>>> commissioners have been reported to say that they have no
>>> legal basis to grant a delay, this is something that the
>>> courts can do pending resolution.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
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