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While I would be VERY happy to not touch this subject with a ten-foot
pole since it overlaps with the PDP, I do not agree that we would need to
define the purpose of a future WHOIS.<br><br>
The question that was raised by Carlton is whether the current WHOIS
protocol is fit for purpose. The CURRENT purpose, whether we like it or
not or agree with it or not. The current WHOIS asks for name and contact
information. We live in a word with IDN names and contact information.
The current 7-bit protocol is not able to handle them. Therefore, it is
not fit for purpose. <br><br>
I agree that what SHOULD be in WHOIS is a different question. If the
answer ends up being almost nothing, then perhaps the current protocol
would be fit for that. But that is NOT what we are here to
decide.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 07/07/2017 04:36 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">The problem about asking this
question is that to do so, we would first have to define the purpose of
Whois and that is a bees nest because everyone only feels his part of the
elephant in the darkness on that topic. <br>
<br>
Not saying that we shouldn't do it anyway, but it would complicate our
work significantly.<br><br>
Best,<br><br>
Volker<br><br>
Am 06.07.2017 um 17:37 schrieb Alan Greenberg:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I am less sure than Carlton that
we MUST discuss this. I have no problem with discussing whether the
current WHOIS protocol is fit for purpose, <b><u>but it better be a
pretty short discussion</u></b>! If anyone has a good argument why it IS
fit for purpose, it should be shared pretty quickly.<br><br>
The inability of a 7-bit protocol to handle today's IDN world, and the
inability to handle any level of authorization/authentication/gating
(which is generally understood to be necessary to allow critical
information to be collected but not universally displayed in support of
privacy legislation) makes the answer pretty clear. And as the charter
Carlton points to indicates, this has been clear for quite some
time.<br><br>
This is a REVIEW team. I believe it is well beyond our scope to debate
whether the current protocol can be modified to meet new needs, to
specify or design a replacement or to review possible replacements. And I
have little interest in debating whether any new protocol should be
called WHOIS (pretending it is the same), WHOIS-Mark-2, RDAP, WEIRDS,
WIERDS or Betelgeuse.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
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At 05/07/2017 10:08 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear All:<br>
I believe this review will have to answer the question as to whether the
current WHOIS protocol is fit to purpose in a evolved DNS environment in
one or other job stream. Some may recall that the RDAP is being
proposed as a fit and proper replacement. <br><br>
You may wish for background to examine the IETF charters for Web
Extensible Internet Registration Data Service (WEIRDS) from whence came
RDAP.<br><br>
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<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters">
https://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters</a></font><br><br>
Best,<br>
-Carlton <br><br>
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