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Agreed. We need to be really careful we do not go down this rat hole!
(for non-English speakers, Definition #2 from
<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rat-hole" eudora="autourl">
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rat-hole</a> - <i>"To
digress in an extensive way. To divert the conversation to a topic that
is not only unrelated to the topic at hand, but a topic that will likely
have no immediate resolution either."</i>)<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
At 07/07/2017 08:48 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=1>While I agree that
purpose is a central question and we will not be able to deal with data
protection issues until we cut that gordian knot, since we just spent
weeks on it in RDS I doubt we should attempt it in the Who2 review.<br>
</font><br>
<font size=1>I think if we stick to a very tight interpretation of the
last review's recommendations, and sail very tight to the wind, we can
get through this in a reasonable time. <br>
</font><br>
<font size=1>Stephanie</font><br><br>
On 2017-07-07 04:36, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><br>
The problem about asking this question is that to do so, we would first
have to define the purpose of Whois and that is a bees nest because
everyone only feels his part of the elephant in the darkness on that
topic. <br><br>
Not saying that we shouldn't do it anyway, but it would complicate our
work significantly.<br><br>
Best,<br><br>
Volker<br><br>
Am 06.07.2017 um 17:37 schrieb Alan Greenberg:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I am less sure than Carlton that
we MUST discuss this. I have no problem with discussing whether the
current WHOIS protocol is fit for purpose, <b><u>but it better be a
pretty short discussion</u></b>! If anyone has a good argument why it IS
fit for purpose, it should be shared pretty quickly.<br><br>
The inability of a 7-bit protocol to handle today's IDN world, and the
inability to handle any level of authorization/authentication/gating
(which is generally understood to be necessary to allow critical
information to be collected but not universally displayed in support of
privacy legislation) makes the answer pretty clear. And as the charter
Carlton points to indicates, this has been clear for quite some
time.<br><br>
This is a REVIEW team. I believe it is well beyond our scope to debate
whether the current protocol can be modified to meet new needs, to
specify or design a replacement or to review possible replacements. And I
have little interest in debating whether any new protocol should be
called WHOIS (pretending it is the same), WHOIS-Mark-2, RDAP, WEIRDS,
WIERDS or Betelgeuse.<br><br>
Alan<br><br>
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At 05/07/2017 10:08 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Dear All:<br>
I believe this review will have to answer the question as to whether the
current WHOIS protocol is fit to purpose in a evolved DNS environment in
one or other job stream. Some may recall that the RDAP is being
proposed as a fit and proper replacement. <br><br>
You may wish for background to examine the IETF charters for Web
Extensible Internet Registration Data Service (WEIRDS) from whence came
RDAP.<br><br>
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https://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters</a></font><br><br>
Best,<br>
-Carlton <br><br>
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