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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Are you joking? they
spend half their lives dealing with those guys. And their own
governments. It is not exactly a cushy job. Requires some
spine.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-04-14 15:32, Alan Greenberg
wrote:<br>
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In my mind, the real question is whether they are subject to any
pressure
from their own law enforcement and communications ministries. Alan<br>
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At 13/04/2018 07:15 PM, Carlton Samuels wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Hate to say I told
you so. But
its proof of my own estimation that the response was going to be
a
yawn.<br>
<br>
I cannot understand why given the history and an competent
understanding
of how any bureaucracy, much less a Eurocrat one, defined in law
and
bounded by practice, would suddenly change their collective
minds!<br>
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 5:47 AM, Volker Greimann
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<dd>As this may be somewhat relevant to the work we are doing,
here is a
link to the response of the Art. 29 WG to ICANNs letter:<br>
<br>
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<a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf"
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https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to-marby-11apr18-en.pdf</a>
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<dd>To be sure, there is nothing substantially new in here, it
re-iterates positions that many have voiced towards ICANN
for years now,
but it does provide a clear overview of where ICANNs
proposed interim
model falls short, and what the constrants to tiered access
would be.
While some already interpret this as "whois is dead!", I
would
not go so far, but for certain uses - beneficial as they may
be - that
statement probably applies. In general, this seems to
provide a solid
basis for further work, but ICANN should not have wasted its
time waiting
for this response instead of continuing to refine their
interim model
with what everyone (but ICANN Org apparently) was already
expecting.<br>
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