<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">One analyst says there are at least 40+ areas in the GDPR that could be modified/interpreted by national law and regulations. Which is why they say if Schrems prevails in his lawsuits, we may very well see a reduction in the surface area for [re]interpretation.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Almost 20 years ago, I was sent to a workshop [sponsored by a U.S. regulator!] on regulatory intent. The takeaway that remains top of mind even today was this old guy advising us to become English language specialists for a successful career writing or interpreting regulations; definitions matters most, he said. Lo and behold, I see this advice validated every day since. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">IMHO, the thing seemingly most overlooked is the definition of 'data subject' and how that plays out in a practical way. That definition makes individuals the subject of data, never mind whether they are inside EU borders or not. Maybe it is serendipity that the idea is connected to a fact of our digital lives; digital data can be anywhere and everywhere at one, effectively loosening it bindings to territory. This is the kernel of the extraterritorial reach of the law. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">-Carlton<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>==============================<br><i><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Carlton A Samuels</font></i><br><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i></font><br>=============================</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>One thing that every critic gets wrong is that in most European
legislation, the vagueness is intentional and regulations and laws
are much more reliant on interpretation. This allows for a broader
cover than specific language, but also for more diverse ways of
interpretation. In effect, those tasked with implementation are a
lot freer in how to do so. <br>
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<p>Best <br><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div class="m_2997645921864117899moz-cite-prefix">Am 30.05.2018 um 17:59 schrieb Chris
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Seems like it’s not just ‘ICANN’ that is not a fan of GDPR...<br>
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<h1 style="margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;margin-bottom:15pt;line-height:24pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span class="m_2997645921864117899article-classifiergap"><span lang="EN-GB">EU data privacy laws are likely to
create barriers to trade</span></span><span lang="EN-GB"></span><u></u><u></u></span></font></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;line-height:18pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span lang="EN-GB">GDPR
creates serious, unclear legal obligations for both
private and public entities</span><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span lang="EN-GB"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ft.com_stream_c282e9be-2Dedd9-2D3de8-2D8b0c-2De697dd30c800&d=DwMFAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=W6FGoh-o78gkKZN3_sXelY30VwoSX288Wo9XnUkQrK8&m=VfOhFAsJy97RwESrvrnrTSkhx0uJWaGvNSqGXGumqxQ&s=56fGyMUXCEaAk52abfL-oQIioE_ZnquZH-AW2j9iMIg&e=" target="_blank">WILBUR ROSS [FT.COM]</a></span><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">We in the
US are deeply concerned about the way the EU’s new
privacy guidelines, which came into effect last week,
will force big changes in the way US and European
companies do business.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Donald
Trump’s administration supports the new General Data
Protection Regulation’s goal of protecting personal
online data while continuing to enable transatlantic
data exchange. We are also committed to working with
the EU to implement the new guidelines.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">We believe
that data-sharing rules must respect privacy and
protect our shared interests of maintaining public
safety and the easy functioning of the internet, while
also taking into account the regulatory, scientific,
and commercial needs of all our countries. As
currently envisioned, GDPR’s implementation could
significantly interrupt transatlantic co-operation and
create unnecessary barriers to trade, not only for the
US, but for everyone outside the EU.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The US
thrives because it has an open, entrepreneurial
society that encourages innovation and embraces
technological advances. We believe consumers benefit
because they enjoy the digital products and services
that are invented and brought to market by US
companies. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Complying
with GDPR will exact a significant cost, particularly
for small and medium-sized enterprises and consumers
who rely on digital services and may lose access and
choice as a result of the guidelines. US companies
have already invested billions of dollars to comply
with the new rules. But even as companies update their
privacy policies to bring themselves in line, many
uncertainties remain.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">GDPR
creates serious, unclear legal obligations for both
private and public sector entities, including the US
government. We do not have a clear understanding of
what is required to comply. That could disrupt
transatlantic co-operation on financial regulation,
medical research, emergency management co-ordination,
and important commerce. It could threaten public
welfare on both sides of the Atlantic. US and European
financial services regulators may be impeded from
carrying out important activities: for example, it is
unclear whether EU supervisors can share information
with the US for compliance exams and other oversight.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Pharmaceutical
companies may not be able to submit medical data from
drug trials involving European patients to US
authorities, which could delay the approval of new
life-saving drugs. The Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention could be restricted in sharing information
with European counterparts while responding to the
outbreak of diseases such as Ebola. And the US Postal
Service believes the new rules will prevent EU postal
operators from providing the personal data on
individuals it needs to process inbound mail. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">GDPR also
raises concern for law enforcement and intellectual
property rights by restricting access to publicly
available internet domain-name registration data. We
anticipate companies will either stop providing
“Whois” look-up services outright, or make it hard to
access the information. That could stop law
enforcement from ascertaining who is behind websites
that propagate terrorist information, sponsor
malicious botnets or steal IP addresses.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">These
important activities need to be weighed carefully
against privacy concerns. They are critical to
building trust in the internet, safeguarding
infrastructure, and protecting the public. Our respect
for privacy does not have to come at the expense of
public safety. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">We must
find a way to implement GDPR without creating undue
barriers. Privacy is an important and timely issue,
but it also is a complex one. The guidance on GDPR
implementation is too vague. EU authorities must
provide clearer rules and a more predictable
regulatory environment to support investment and
innovation. We ask them to act quickly so that GDPR
can be properly implemented.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The writer
is the US commerce secretary</span></font></p>
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On 30 May 2018, at 15:45, Carlton Samuels <<a href="mailto:carlton.samuels@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlton.samuels@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
read the pleading eventually and in fairness to Jones Day,
they threw everything they got into their filing, the baby
and bathwater included. So naturally the overreach on
trademark and content regulation that Milton and them
getting excited about made its way there.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Comparing
the arguments presented to the directives of the GDPR,
self defeat seems evident. So maybe it is a fiendishly
clever legal strategy at play and this is a test case to
get a few markers down for the big one. But from the
pleadings of facts and intended outcome, this one, IMHO,
is as weak as a strain of denatured bacteria. </div>
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Volker Greimann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Of course he
will. ICANN has been acting ill-advised from the
start. Instead of embracing GDPR and its impact and
taking the essence of the regulation at heart and
building upon that basis, ICANN ORG (and parts of the
community) has been shirking its responsibilites until
this day and continued to search for loopholes,
excemptions and ways around it. <br>
<br>
The law suit is just the latest example of this
painful process, where ICANN now is specifically
expanding its mandate to define a purpose for the
collection of certain data.<br>
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Some excellent reading material on this issue can be
found here:<br>
<a class="m_2997645921864117899m_4173234067177970604moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/05/28/the-injunction-icanns-lame-attempt-to-turn-dns-into-a-trademark-registry/" target="_blank">https://www.internetgovernance<wbr>.org/2018/05/28/the-<wbr>injunction-icanns-lame-<wbr>attempt-to-turn-dns-into-a-<wbr>trademark-registry/</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">I
have a feeling Schrems will likely triumph
before ICANN.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 27, 2018 at
11:05 PM, Alan Greenberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-25-en" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/ann<wbr>ouncement-2018-05-25-en</a><br>
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For those who might not have noticed, on
Friday, ICANN announced that it has filed
injunction proceedings against a German
registrar (associated with TUCOWS) that had
informed ICANN that under the GDPR, it would
no longer be collecting certain data (Admin
and Technical contact info).<br>
<br>
Collection is a critical step, in that if
data is not collected, it cannot be released
to accredited parties, no matter how good
their justification is.<br>
<br>
As I understand it (and that could be
wrong), this is an interesting step, in that
it takes the issue out of the hands of data
commissioners and into the courts, where
presumably ICANN will be given an
opportunity to explain why it believes that
such collection is important. Although data
commissioners have been reported to say that
they have no legal basis to grant a delay,
this is something that the courts can do
pending resolution.<br>
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