<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi Lili:<br>See my comments in line.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>==============================<br><i><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Carlton A Samuels</font></i><br><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>Mobile: 876-818-1799<br><font color="#33CC00">Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround</font></i></font><br>=============================</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 10:21 PM, SUN Lili <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:L.SUN@interpol.int" target="_blank">L.SUN@interpol.int</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Dear Privacy & Proxy subgroup members,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I went through the draft report of this subgroup on wiki page (<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=71604717" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/<wbr>pages/viewpage.action?pageId=<wbr>71604717</a>)
and step in with my concerns:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">To the Data Accuracy subgroup, the Whois accuracy of domain names that utilize Privacy and Proxy Services is invisible. And Volker
also mentioned that this will be dealt with in the Privacy & Proxy subgroup. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;display:inline">Under current rules, the accredited P/P provider is obliged to ensure contactability of customer of his service. That this is the case cannot be verified independently and some of us have argued from inception this is a major hole in the agreement. We have alternately argued that there should be graded penalties for this violation after the fact.</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-SG" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-5119598688317337846WordSection1"><p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As such, I strongly support Susan’s comments on “6 Conducting periodic due diligence checks on customer contact information” and “8 Providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the
rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment.” There is no reason for a customer who chose P/P service thus been protected from responsibilities.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;display:inline">See above. We expect that the risk triage will allow the cost of violation to pass to the customer.</div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-SG" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-5119598688317337846WordSection1"><p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">There is no indication about the legacy domain names that utilize P/P Services before the provider been accredited. Will it be
a similar situation as Grandfathered domains?</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;display:inline">Some of us have argued that there should be a Privacy/Proxy Data Accuracy Reminder policy along the line of the WHOIS Data reminder. It was not accepted. But there is no reason the P/P provider cannot be obliged and bound to it in terms of the accreditation for renewals. </div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-SG" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-5119598688317337846WordSection1"><p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="m_-5119598688317337846MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><u></u><span dir="LTR"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Like the example I gave during the 2<sup>nd</sup> F2F meeting, if there is not enough regulation and overseeing in place, P/P
service is very likely to be abused. To be clear, I elaborated the example in a word document (see attached). Do we really need this kind of fake prosperity of domain industry?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">A response from this subgroup is much appreciated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;display:inline">Best,</div></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large;display:inline">-Carlton</div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-SG" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-5119598688317337846WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Lili<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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