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<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>I see it in a similar way to the recommendations of the first RT.
When the first RT recommended that ICANN make Whois a strategic
priority, we can certainly do the same for safeguarding
registration data in the context of data privacy laws. Years down
the road, a new RT can then review how well ICANN did in that
regard.</p>
<p>I would also recommend that we reference this in our review of
the stratprio recommendation as ICANN seems to have mainly ignored
that aspect even though the recommendation read that it should
make it a stratprio in ALL of its aspects. The rush and panic we
are experiencing now is a direct result of this failure and we
should not ignore this in our report. In fact, it may be the
biggest issue ICANN has with the implementation of the first RT
recs, depending on their interpretation, of course.<br>
</p>
<p>Volker<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.04.2018 um 18:49 schrieb Alan
Greenberg:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:YTXPR01MB0399E99FAA88E177E647390893B30@YTXPR01MB0399.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM">I
have no problem with noting this, but I see no actionable
recommendation. The Board has already chartered a PDP and is
taking
interim (GDPR) corrective action.<br>
<br>
At 13/04/2018 12:38 PM, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Not really, we should
just
analyze for how long ICANN has known about this issue but chosen
to
ignore it, and recommend that they now take the safeguarding of
private
data to heart and learn from past mistakes. We will not (and
should not)
give specific implementation advice or tell them how to do their
job. But
we can tell them that they should do their job and in fact
should have
done their jobs years ago. <br>
<br>
The how and what is ICANNs business and we should not intrude on
that,
but the fact that action and a re-orientation is needed is
something that
we very well can recommend. This will re-enforce the requirement
but not
intrude on any ongoing work.<br>
<br>
I believe this is one of the single most important issues
regarding whois
and by ignoring it we risk total irrelevance of our work. <br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
Am 13.04.2018 um 17:31 schrieb Alan Greenberg:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">It is stating an
opinion on how
ICANN should be preceding. We have already agreed that we will
say that
the data has been completely open and that ICANN has provided
NO
protection against any use or abuse.<br>
<br>
If GDPR and the PDP were not happening, we could certainly
make a
recommendation that ICANN should charter a group to decide on
what data
should be protected and how. But that seems rather moot at
this point in
time.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 13/04/2018 10:28 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite=""><font size="1">How
is Volkers
suggestion getting us actively involved in the GDPR
frenzy? I think
it is a logical thing to do.<br>
</font><br>
<font size="1">Stephanie</font><br>
On 2018-04-13 10:17, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Volker, we made
a decision long
ago to not get actively involved in the GDPR frenzy as
that directly
overlaps with the current process (as faulted as some
people may think it
is). Moreover, given the timing of our final report, it is
not at all
obvious what purpose such work would serve.<br>
<br>
Alan<br>
<br>
At 13/04/2018 07:12 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">I think we
should, under the
shadow of the oncoming GDPR, expand on the analysis
section under 3 a),
stating that in this respect, ICANN and the community
seem to have failed
completely at ensuring registrant details are
safeguarded from
unauthorized or abusive access. We can then point to the
extreme volumes
of spam each new registration generates for the
registrant, the
harvesting of data in historic databases and various
examples of doxxing
(if we find any) based on whois data. <br>
<br>
This would then also inform the question we could ask
not only contracted
parties, but also affected members of civil society.<br>
<br>
Our summary of relevant research should also include
every letter DPAs
have ever written to ICANN on this topic, including the
letter from the
Dutch DPA Re: .Amsterdam.<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
Am 12.04.2018 um 21:48 schrieb Alan Greenberg:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Attached
please find the updated
draft report and slide deck.<br>
<br>
At 10/04/2018 12:48 AM, Lisa Phifer wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Dear
Subgroup 5 (Safeguarding
Registrant Data) -<br>
<br>
As discussed in our plenary call, attached are draft
slides for Alan to
review/revise on behalf of your subgroup.<br>
<br>
The content of these slides is based on this draft
subgroup report:<br>
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<br>
As a reminder, here is the timeline for slide
completion:<br>
• <b>Monday 9 April COB</b> - ICANN org support
team to send draft slides
to subgroup Rapporteurs <br>
• <b>Thursday 12 April COB</b> - Rapporteurs to
send final updates to
slides to ICANN org support team <br>
• <b>Friday 13 April COB</b> - ICANN org support
team to circulate final
slide-deck with the review team <br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Lisa<br>
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