[registration-issues-wg] Registrars as Censors

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Sun Nov 5 18:43:22 UTC 2017


Michele:
The writing framed the views of two groups of our stakeholders, not at all
representing my own.

CAS


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On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 12:32 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com> wrote:

> Carlton
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> Freedom of speech is **not** “inalienable” and it’s definitely not an
> absolute right.
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> Personally I think it’s interesting that different groups want to discuss
> this, but unless they’re going to pay our legal fees I don’t see how any 3
> rd party can force a registrar (or anyone else) to not take action when
> they’re being fined or worse.
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> Regards
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> Michele
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> *From: *<registration-issues-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on
> behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Sunday 5 November 2017 at 17:17
> *To: *"registration-issues-wg at icann.org" <registration-issues-wg at icann.org>,
> Charla Shambley via CCT-Review <cct-review at icann.org>
> *Subject: *[registration-issues-wg] Registrars as Censors
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> Um, well, they can summarily act under [a] general provision[s] of the
> Terms of Service disapproving of things like incitement, antisocial
> behaviours and such.
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> The NCUC's position tends to a blanket restraint on any action by the
> registrar; the ToS may not be utilised for such actions, especially if it
> results - or tends to result - in decisions pertaining [web] content.
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> The EFF's position is a little more nuanced:
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> it is worried about lack of due process and accountability in the first
> instance and the incursion of certain inalienable rights, like freedom of
> speech. So they promote a process that they feel would make the action
> accountable
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> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/10/eff-icanns-registrars-
> dont-pick-censors-pen
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> -Carlton
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