[registration-issues-wg] Fwd: Whose Interest?

Evan Leibovitch evan at telly.org
Sun Oct 15 09:03:00 UTC 2017


This is the kind of "we're all end users and we're all conflicted" rubbish
that so poisons the ability of At-Large to actually accomplish its mandate.

Very familiar territory, but with a fresh coat of paint to keep reminding
us to stop claiming to speak for anyone (or anyone's interest). ICANN
bylaws be damned.

- Evan



On 13 October 2017 at 17:19, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thought I'd share James Blandel response to a query.
>
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> From: James M. Bladel <jbladel at godaddy.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder regarding Expected Standards of
> Behavior
> To: Terri Agnew <terri.agnew at icann.org>, "gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org" <
> gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org>, "Aikman-Scalese, Anne" <AAikman at lrrc.com>
> Cc: "gnso-secs at icann.org" <gnso-secs at icann.org>
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>
> Hi Anne -
>
> Well, candidly, I think everyone has some interest in the outcomes of
> Policy Development. Whether that’s direct, like those of us representing
> our Employers of Clients, or indirect, like those seeking to further their
> own career in government or academia, or to build a platform for future
> business development.
>
> I guess my point is that everyone is here on behalf of an interest, even
> if it is theirs personally. And this is the lens through which we view the
> “overall best interests of Internet users.” I may focus on the desire of an
> Internet user / domain registrant to launch a business or blog in a
> frictionless environment, unencumbered by confusing rules and regulations.
> Others could focus on the trust element, that users should have a
> reasonable level of confidence that people and organizations they are
> engaging with online are trustworthy and who they claim to be. Another
> group might want to participate online in a way that doesn’t expose them to
> frivolous legal risk or compromise their individual privacy.
>
> The beautiful thing about the Internet is that all of these legitimate
> “overall best interests” can intersect in the same “Internet user”. We see
> this in companies like GoDaddy, where we want the best experience for our
> customers, but also want to protect them from common online scams and
> fraud. We see people misappropriating our name & brand, and we hear
> complaints from customers about their information being harvested for spam
> & robocalls. I try to be mindful of all these interests, and bring them to
> my work at ICANN.
>
> So ultimately it is a question of balancing, rather than competing,
> interests. I believe that all of the either-or, black-and-white problems
> were solved decades ago, and we’ve now taken up permanent residence in a
> nebulous gray area. Not sure if this was the response you were looking for,
> but I hope it was helpful.
>
> Thanks—
>
> J.
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2017, 21:00 -0500, Aikman-Scalese, Anne <AAikman at lrrc.com>,
> wrote:
>
> Thanks James.  This is a good reminder.  Just seeking a clarification on
> one point:
>
> [image: cid:image001.png at 01D3436A.29F43160]
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>
>
> Would you say that PDPs are characterized by individuals acting in the
> overall best interests of Internet users and the security and stability of
> the Internet  “irrespective of personal interests and the interests of the
> entity to which an individual might owe their appointment”?
>
>
>
> Wouldn’t it be a bit strange if we expected representatives of  various
> entities that have a financial stake in the GNSO policy process to take
> positions and make contributions counter to the interests of their
> employers when participating in PDPs?   (Honestly interested in your candid
> thoughts on this.)
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Anne
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> *From:* gnso-newgtld-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-bounce
> s at icann.org] *On Behalf Of* Terri Agnew
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:10 AM
> *To:* gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org
> *Cc:* gnso-secs at icann.org
> *Subject:* [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Reminder regarding Expected Standards of
> Behavior
>
>
>
> Sent on behalf of the GNSO Council leadership team
>
>
>
> ================
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues -
>
>
>
> Several recent interactions on PDP working group calls and mailing lists
> have been referred to the GNSO Chairs (Heather, Donna, and I).  After
> review, our level of concern is such that we felt a refresher on ICANN's
> Expected Standards of Behavior was warranted.  A link to this document is
> provided below, but in general terms we are asking all participants in PDP
> working groups to elevate the level of discourse on calls and mailing lists
> to reflect a respectful and professional environment for our work.
>
>
>
> With this in mind, don’t attack fellow volunteers personally, or question
> their motives, or presume to know their positions without giving them a
> chance to present it.  Humor (especially sarcasm) doesn’t go over well in
> emails or AC chat sessions, and usually doesn’t translate at all.  Refrain
> from escalating or retaliating to negative comments.  And, above all,
> remember that our shared objective is not to “win” on any given issue, but
> to seek out and build upon areas of common understanding.
>
>
>
> The Expected Standards of Behavior can be found here:
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/expected-standards-2012-05-15-en
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_expected-2Dstandards-2D2012-2D05-2D15-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=nLTnlCjpaKa0PAoZ3Oo9Hth_qedPM7PZZR9XOAEmRW8&s=rifMmlUtCDfJQ-7waiDNprOF9hRGXjwUtK_MFiJDj4g&e=>.
>  I know we’re all accustomed to just “click through” this text when joining
> a meeting, but I’m now asking everyone take a minute to two to review it
> again.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your help with this matter.
>
>
>
> J.
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> James Bladel
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> GNSO Chair
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