[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Urgent EPDP question

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Oct 15 18:56:14 UTC 2018

Greg did not say that ALL 3rd part access 
benefits users. He said that all users benefit 
from (some) 3rd party access (A implies B does is not cummutative!).

Those who fight spam, malware, phishing and 
develop reputation services use WHOIS, and that 
help virtually all users (except those doing the naughty things).


At 15/10/2018 02:31 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>Hmm... third party access does not always benefit the end user in reality.
>Sent from my mobile
>Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 19:15 Greg Shatan, 
><<mailto:greg at isoc-ny.org>greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>I think the proper question to ask is “How 
>many end users actually benefited from third parties checking WHOIS data”?
>The answer might well be “All of them.”
>Best regards,
>On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>Michele you are correct. I considered putting
>that level of detail in, but decided that it
>overly complicated a message that was solely
>asking about legal vs natural persons. Note that
>your comment would have made the parenthetical
>twice as long as the rest of the sentence.
>At 15/10/2018 05:15 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> >Alan
> >
> > >  GDPR requires the information related to Natural Persons be protected
> > >  (for those resident in Europe) be protected. GDPR does not apply to
> > > Legal Persons (ie companies).
> >
> >
> >That isn't what GDPR states.
> >By presenting it as applying to "natural
> >persons" vs "legal persons" you are over 
> simplifying GDPR and its application.
> >GDPR applies to personal data.
> >It applies to data subjects.
> >It also applies to data processing in the EU
> >regardless of where the data subject is. So as
> >an Irish company we have to treat our Canadian
> >clients' data under GDPR as we are processing it in the EU.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Michele
> >
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