[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Urgent EPDP question

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 20:27:09 UTC 2018


Hello Alan,

Do note that my response to Greg's comment does not remove my support for
differentiation(just incase you've not counted the +1).

That said am clear about what Greg said and I know what I said; the fact
that you put an exception your own comment makes the point.

Thanks
Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 19:56 Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:

> Greg did not say that ALL 3rd part access benefits users. He said that all
> users benefit from (some) 3rd party access (A implies B does is not
> cummutative!).
>
> Those who fight spam, malware, phishing and develop reputation services
> use WHOIS, and that help virtually all users (except those doing the
> naughty things).
>
> Alan
>
> At 15/10/2018 02:31 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>
> Hmm... third party access does not always benefit the end user in reality.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 19:15 Greg Shatan, <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
> I think the proper question to ask is “How many end users actually
> benefited from third parties checking WHOIS data†?
>
> The answer might well be “All of them.â€
>
> Best regards,
>
> Greg
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
> > wrote:
> Michele you are correct. I considered putting
> that level of detail in, but decided that it
> overly complicated a message that was solely
> asking about legal vs natural persons. Note that
> your comment would have made the parenthetical
> twice as long as the rest of the sentence.
>
> Alan
>
> At 15/10/2018 05:15 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> >Alan
> >
> > >  GDPR requires the information related to Natural Persons be protected
> > >  (for those resident in Europe) be protected. GDPR does not apply to
> > > Legal Persons (ie companies).
> >
> >
> >That isn't what GDPR states.
> >By presenting it as applying to "natural
> >persons" vs "legal persons" you are over simplifying GDPR and its
> application.
> >GDPR applies to personal data.
> >It applies to data subjects.
> >It also applies to data processing in the EU
> >regardless of where the data subject is. So as
> >an Irish company we have to treat our Canadian
> >clients' data under GDPR as we are processing it in the EU.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Michele
> >
> >--
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> >Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
> >Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
> >-------------------------------
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> >
> >
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