[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Urgent EPDP question

Greg Shatan greg at isoc-ny.org
Mon Oct 15 20:43:01 UTC 2018


I think Alan’s point (and I’ll reiterate it) is that your statement does
not impact or limit my statement in any way. Importantly, my statement did
not imply the opposite of your statement. So my point stands....
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:27 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Alan,
>
> Do note that my response to Greg's comment does not remove my support for
> differentiation(just incase you've not counted the +1).
>
> That said am clear about what Greg said and I know what I said; the fact
> that you put an exception your own comment makes the point.
>
> Thanks
> Sent from my mobile
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 19:56 Alan Greenberg, <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Greg did not say that ALL 3rd part access benefits users. He said that
>> all users benefit from (some) 3rd party access (A implies B does is not
>> cummutative!).
>>
>> Those who fight spam, malware, phishing and develop reputation services
>> use WHOIS, and that help virtually all users (except those doing the
>> naughty things).
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 15/10/2018 02:31 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>
>> Hmm... third party access does not always benefit the end user in reality.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Sent from my mobile
>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>>
>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, 19:15 Greg Shatan, <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>> I think the proper question to ask is “How many end users actually
>> benefited from third parties checking WHOIS data†?
>>
>> The answer might well be “All of them.â€
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:47 AM Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Michele you are correct. I considered putting
>> that level of detail in, but decided that it
>> overly complicated a message that was solely
>> asking about legal vs natural persons. Note that
>> your comment would have made the parenthetical
>> twice as long as the rest of the sentence.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 15/10/2018 05:15 AM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> >Alan
>> >
>> > >  GDPR requires the information related to Natural Persons be protected
>> > >  (for those resident in Europe) be protected. GDPR does not apply to
>> > > Legal Persons (ie companies).
>> >
>> >
>> >That isn't what GDPR states.
>> >By presenting it as applying to "natural
>> >persons" vs "legal persons" you are over simplifying GDPR and its
>> application.
>> >GDPR applies to personal data.
>> >It applies to data subjects.
>> >It also applies to data processing in the EU
>> >regardless of where the data subject is. So as
>> >an Irish company we have to treat our Canadian
>> >clients' data under GDPR as we are processing it in the EU.
>> >
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Michele
>> >
>> >--
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>> >Blacknight Solutions
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>> > https://www.blacknight.com/
>>
>> > https://blacknight.blog/
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>> >Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
>> >Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
>> >Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
>>
>> >-------------------------------
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>> >
>> >
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