[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] Fwd: [Policy] Chatham House publish a comment by Emily Taylor on WHOIS and GDPR

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Sun Oct 21 03:05:24 UTC 2018


I'm not a fan of make work.

Fact: P/P policy prescription is getting on 5 years old.

Fact: P/P shenanigans are with us time out of memory.

It is likely that whatever emerge from the ePDP - and assuming that is
GDPR-compliant - will make P/P rules moot.

I very much err in favour of avoiding make work.

Carlton

On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, 1:28 pm Greg Shatan, <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:

> ICANN has responded (fairly strongly) to the NCSG letter that is the basis
> for Milton’s post:
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/chalaby-to-badiei-perrin-20oct18-en.pdf.
> Makes for some interesting reading.
>
> I’m not sure the suspension of the PPSAI IRT is anything to celebrate. The
> WG’s recommendations (which ultimately represented a broad consensus) were
> adopted two years ago. It’s fairly pathetic that there’s even an IRT still
> “deliberating” two years later. From a community perspective, there’s
> nothing good in a failure to implement approved policy. Maybe there’s a
> strong case for a short pause to see what adjustments might be needed, but
> shelving this for a significant period of time, when there’s all sorts of
> work to be done, isn’’t fair or appropriate
>
> The need for P/P accreditation is at least as great now as before.
> Privacy/proxy is not dead; it may even be more alive than ever. One
> registrar has apparently put all of its registrants under its P/P
> protection. If a party seeks registrant information, they are first
> confronted with the P/P information. It they make a request from the P/P
> provider and they are successful, they are provided with ... a dataset with
> all of the contact information redacted due to GDPR. P/P issues tend to be
> more prevalent with registrars who do not participate in ICANN; an
> implemented policy is needed to reach them and get them to be “better
> actors.”
>
> Best regards,
>
> Greg
> On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 7:32 PM Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Saw it before now.
>>
>> Um, maybe one point of light to celebraye. The P/P IRT has sensibly
>> stopped its deliberations until.
>>
>> Carlton.
>>
>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018, 11:43 am Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> so you've seen the paper from Emily Taylor (below) reflecting on
>>> progress of the EPDP from one angle.
>>>
>>> Here's another angle from Milton Mueller, reflecting the points of view
>>> held by the NCSG about the Unified Access Model:
>>>
>>> https://www.internetgovernance.org/2018/10/19/civil-society-groups-blast-icann-orgs-push-for-a-unified-access-model/
>>>
>>> Kindest regards,
>>>
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 20/10/2018 12:03, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
>>>
>>> FYI - Emily Taylor is a participant in the EPDP.
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: [Policy] Chatham House publish a comment by Emily Taylor on
>>> WHOIS and GDPR
>>> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 09:08:59 +0100
>>> From: Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> <cdel at firsthand.net>
>>> Reply-To: cdel at firsthand.net
>>> To: policy at isoc-e.org <policy at isoc-e.org> <policy at isoc-e.org>
>>>
>>> https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/why-public-directory-domain-names-about-vanish
>>>
>>> --
>>> Christian de Larrinaga
>>>
>>>
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