[registration-issues-wg] New Zealand's .Nz namespace gets preliminary injuction against DomainTools - Domain Name Wire | Domain Name News & Website Stuff

Roberto Gaetano roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 13 19:29:27 UTC 2018


Hi all.
The ability to search bank accounts would allow finding answers to the following questions:
- is the bank account holder real or is somebody hiding behind a false identity or a third party (let’s call it “proxy” for short)?
- is the bank account used for illegal transactions?
And once understood that the “real" bank account holder is hiding behind proxies it allows answering the following question:
- does he/she/it own other bank accounts hiding behind other proxies?
- is there a network of proxies covering a centrally managed criminal activity?
Public information about all bank accounts will allow self-appointed vigilantes to detect a lot of frauds and criminal networks!
Have a nice weekend,
Roberto

PS: this is not a made-up case, this is the way the anti-mafia police in Italy proceeds to discover mafia networks. The difference is that nobody screams hell to have bank account information public.


> On 13.09.2018, at 23:56, Derek Smythe <derek at aa419.org> wrote:
> 
> The ability to search for a registrant and find answers to the questions:
> - Is this a proxy?
> - Is the website hacked?
> 
> ... and once understood to be a malicious registrant, answers the
> question:
> - which other malicious domains might the malicious registrant have
> registered?
> 
> Example: atsprojects.co.za in this case. From there into a mess of
> similar long ongoing fraud, much published about.
> 
> It allows us to join the dots and turn a fraud incident into consumer
> protection.
> 
> It also avoids situations where the abuse report goes to a domain
> reseller facilitating. Example
> https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/latvian-national-sentenced-prison-scareware-hacking-scheme-targeted-minneapolis-star-tribune
> 
> This is well worth a read, it simply illustrates one of many "insider
> threats" in DNS which is ignored. Never a word was said about Heihachi
> despite me asking it be used for a case study. Opportunities lost.
> 
> Derek Smythe
> Artists Against 419
> http://www.aa419.org
> 
> 
> On 2018/09/13 20:30, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
>> Derek
>> 
>> Sorry but what on earth has that got to do with Domain Tools making a shadow copy of the registry's whois?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Michele
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> On 13/09/2018, 18:17, "registration-issues-wg on behalf of Derek Smythe" <registration-issues-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of derek at aa419.org> wrote:
>> 
>>    There are always two sides to a story with the truth somewhere in
>>    between.
>> 
>>    The irony: In a recent fraud case domain grandlin.co.nz was registered
>>    via a German registrar with fake registration data, belonging to a
>>    real NZ business (in the motor trade). Then content was stolen from a
>>    Greek manufacturer of boots to create a fake NZ business. In turn
>>    another domain was registered to spoof the Army. The fake army domain
>>    then sent out tender requests to businesses. Take a guess what - all
>>    of them won the tender. Once the companies had prepaid for the orders
>>    ... then nothing.
>> 
>>    In at least one case reported to law enforcement (the typical panacea
>>    for domain abuse) a woman not only lost her business leaving her deep
>>    in debt, but with all her personal details supplied to criminals, also
>>    forcing her to lay off staff.
>> 
>>    Sad fact: there will never be justice or restitution for her or her
>>    employees. At least seven other small business are known about that
>>    came to collect their orders at a fake address of a business not
>>    involved (also in the motor trade).
>> 
>>    This is also not the only .co.nz domain we are aware of begin abused
>>    similarly.
>> 
>>    That is why, when I see these cases and knowing what is REALLY
>>    happening, when privacy is touted in an unbalanced way, I get sick:
>>    Club registrant/registrar/ICANN trumps law and order, also human rights.
>> 
>>    Derek Smythe
>>    Artists Against 419
>>    http://www.aa419.org
>> 
>>    On 2018/09/13 13:31, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>>> https://domainnamewire.com/2018/09/12/new-zealands-nz-namespace-gets-preliminary-injuction-against-domaintools/
>>> 
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