[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] DRAFT ALAC EPDP Advice

Marita Moll mmoll at ca.inter.net
Thu Apr 4 15:31:36 UTC 2019

For Bastiaan and anyone else who was not able to make the call, I made 
the following points on this issue:

1. I am not crazy about the idea of issuing this advice to the board 
but, if we are going to do it, let's make sure we a really good reason 
to raise any of these issues.

2. I could rationalize the Thick WhoIs item as there has been new legal 
advice in the meantime so we are asking that this advice be given full 

3. I can almost rationalize the Geographic Differentiation" as there 
seems to have been a commitment by the Chair that this issue would be 
reopened in Phase 2 and it does not appear to be on the agenda. Also, 
there has been some new legal opinion. I am not agreeing with the 
position but as I understand it, this is a request to continue the 
discussion -- as per a commitment that was made.

4. I am not in favour of the last item -- requesting a redo on the 
Legal/Natural Persons decisions-- it is already covered, as Bastiaan 
says, scheduled to be discussed in Phase 2 and our bringing it up in 
this way seems like whining. There was a suggestion on the call that we 
could ask for a study. I did say that that might make a difference -- 
offering something new to the current situation. But then, I also don't 
see why that request could not be made during the discussions.

In summary, I am not challenging anyone's position on the substance of 
these issues. I am just asking that we *make sure* there is something 
new, something that takes the advice being offered beyond a complaint on 
the terms of the report as it currently stands.


On 4/4/2019 4:06 AM, Bastiaan Goslings wrote:
> Thanks a lot, Alan - your and Hadia’s efforts are much appreciated
> (I was not on yesterday’s CPWG call so do not know how this was discussed)
> It might not come as a surprise, but I do not agree with the advice on ‘Geographic Differentiation’. Both when it comes to the framing/introduction as well as the conclusion. I do not have time to elaborate on this know, but happy to do so later - in the meantime see my previous comments.
> I can agree with the 'Thick WHOIS’ concerns - the part on 'Legal/Natural Person Differentiation' seems redundant to me though, this is already covered by rec#17: 'The EPDP Team will determine and resolve the Legal vs. Natural issue in Phase 2’
> cheers
> Bastiaan
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>> On 3 Apr 2019, at 15:59, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>> Please find attached a draft of the ALAC Advice to the Board related to the EPDP.
>> Note that the highlighting (inadvertantly missing in the third case) gives two alternative pheasings to be discussed.
>> Hadia has reviewed it and supports it.
>> Alan
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