[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Fwd: FW: Draft Comment on RA Renewals

Greg Shatan greg at isoc-ny.org
Fri Apr 26 15:41:58 UTC 2019


Justine,

Thank you for your kind words and helpful comments.

Unfortunately, the “party” got rained out.  The CPWG decided not to approve
this statement, whether it covers all the renewals or is limited to .ORG.
So nothing is being sent to the ALAC for their consideration. I think it’s
a good statement, and it would be made better with your suggestions.  I am
considering revising this draft, cutting the subject back to .ORG and
submitting it individually.  Also, circulating it for others to submit —
either individually or with multiple signatures.

In particular, I am concerned there are a number of comments being made
that tend to denigrate PIR and ISOC.  This is something I would like to
counter.  [Full disclosure: I am the President of ISOC-NY (an At-Large
Structure) and participate here in that capacity.  However, I have not yet
asked the ISOC-NY Board to consider endorsing this statement, so I am
discussing it here in my individual capacity.]. I honestly think much of
what has been said about PIR and ISOC has been untrue or exaggerated and
fails to to give credit to ISOC for its mission and unique place in the
internet ecosystem.

I believe that PIR was hoping for a comment along the lines of our first
draft (which I believe they saw on our site) or our second draft.  I’m not
comfortable leaving PIR and ISOC to be “thrown under the bus” by
ill-informed and prejudicial comments.  If ALAC will not comment (or more
precisely, if the CPWG wont send ALAC a draft comment for their
consideration), then it behooves those who support this statement to submit
it or use it as a basis for their own comments.

Best regards,

Greg

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:02 AM Justine Chew <justine.chew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks to Greg Shatan for the 24 April draft statement.
>
> My comments / suggestion are as follows:-
>
> 1. I wonder if it might be better to prepare (and submit) 2 statements
> instead of a consolidated one ie. one to address .BIZ, .ORG and .INFO and
> another for .ASIA.. This is because .ASIA had a "different playing field of
> no price caps" to begin with and in this way, any concerns about price cap
> removals for .BIZ, .ORG and .INFO can be addressed squarely in comparison
> with .NET and with reference to the ALAC's 2017 comment. Given that we
> don't seem to be offering comments to the inclusion of some RPMs.
>
> 2. In any case, the draft starts with "Background" but doesn't indicate
> where that backgrounder ends and where the present comment begins.
>
> 3. Related to the point about standardizing RAs as being a good approach,
> it be useful to draw attention to the use of Addendums as the controlled
> means for handling necessary variations.
>
> 4. Would it not be incumbent on At-Large to also support (or least comment
> on) regularizing the inclusion of PICs in these RA renewals (if any)?
>
> 5. As for UA, it's not clear (to me at least) what we want all ROs to do
> about it at this point. Given community interest on UA has increased
> further in recent meetings, actual responsibilities might be better framed
> in due course. So, it may be prudent to tackle the inclusion of UA into the
> base Registry Agreement by amending Specification 6, or possibly by way of
> a consensus policy addition in Specification 1, at a later date.
>
> Justine
> (my apologies for being late to the "party")
>
> -----
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 04:15, Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu at icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Greg; this draft ALAC Statement on the 4 Registry Agreement
>> Public Comments is posted to each workspace, for comment:
>>
>>
>>
>> At-Large Workspace: Proposed Renewal of .biz Registry Agreement
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.biz+Registry+Agreement>
>>
>> At-Large Workspace: Proposed Renewal of .asia Registry Agreement
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.asia+Registry+Agreement>
>>
>> At-Large Workspace: Proposed Renewal of .org Registry Agreement
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.org+Registry+Agreement>
>>
>> At-Large Workspace: Proposed Renewal of .info Registry Agreement
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.info+Registry+Agreement>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Evin
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *GTLD-WG <gtld-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
>> Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 2:44 PM
>> *To: *CPWG <cpwg at icann.org>, Evin Erdogdu <evin.erdogdu at icann.org>,
>> Jonathan Zuck <JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org>
>> *Subject: *[GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Fwd: FW: Draft Comment on RA Renewals
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Please see attached.*
>>
>> --
>>
>> Greg Shatan
>>
>> greg at isoc-ny.org
>>
>> President, ISOC-NY
>>
>> *"The Internet is for everyone"*
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Greg Shatan
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