[registration-issues-wg] [CPWG] [GTLD-WG] Next steps in the evolving MS model

Eduardo Diaz eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com
Mon Jun 17 20:30:35 UTC 2019


Good questions.

-ed

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 4:24 PM Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
wrote:

> It's a bit difficult to create a model without some form of structure. Or
> is it their structures that are important? What about what is important to
> At-Large? So where does the "multi-stakeholder" bit fit in?
>
> On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, 8:14 AM Eduardo Diaz, <eduardodiazrivera at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Isn't structural issues part of the MS model?
>>
>> -ed
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:36 PM Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I heard today that ICANN org would like “structural” issues to be off
>>> the table — whether it’s the distribution of board seats, or NomCom seats,
>>> or the place for ALAC within PDP Working Groups.  Anyone who followed the
>>> GNSO review will recall that they tried to take structure off the table
>>> there, too, only to be met with a groundswell of concerns.
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 5:13 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That makes sense to me Greg
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 03:07 Greg Shatan <greg at isoc-ny.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We will probably want to cover all of the categories, but decide which
>>>>> topics we want to prioritize under each category.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:34 AM Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Justine. In response to your request for a short list, it is going
>>>>>> to be hard to rule any of them out. Don't see how we can decide not to
>>>>>> engage in the cultural issues or the participation issues or the roles and
>>>>>> responsibilities issues. Possibly we might take more of a back seat on some
>>>>>> of the process, prioritization issues. But I am not sure about that either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having trouble imagining everyone jumping up to volunteer for
>>>>>> everything -- given the stretched resources of volunteer groups. It will be
>>>>>> another diversion of scarce resources and the rest of the work doesn't
>>>>>> stop. But, everyone is also intensely aware that, if they are not at
>>>>>> that table, the discussion will go on without them.  Since trust is an
>>>>>> issue, who is going to trust another constituency to resolve the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, it is going to be tricky. I don't have a sense about how that
>>>>>> discussion will flow.  Some advance discussion on our part and
>>>>>> vigilance will be important -- perhaps a bit of a caucus at the meeting
>>>>>> itself so decisions can be made on the fly. Any info on how other
>>>>>> groups plan to handle this would also be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Committing any group to take on an issue has to be agreed -- so I
>>>>>> doesn't seem possible for this process to happen in one meeting -- people
>>>>>> haven't actually seen the whole issue list Brian is going to present.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marita
>>>>>> On 6/15/2019 11:00 PM, Justine Chew wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Marita,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please provide a short list of issues which you think
>>>>>> At-Large cannot afford not to have an influence in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justine
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 07:37, Marita Moll <mmoll at ca.inter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear CPWG members. I hope some of you were able to attend B. Cute's
>>>>>>> webinar on Wednesday. As usual, he was quite clear about what he was
>>>>>>> expecting from us next:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Map issues to owners
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Identify dates by which owners will deliver a solution or
>>>>>>> approach to resolving the issue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Identify resources needed by owner(s) to deliver solutions
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, by the time of the meeting in Marrakesh the issue identification
>>>>>>> part of the exercise will have been completed. At the meeting in Marrakesh,
>>>>>>> Brian will be looking for everyone's help in mapping issues to owners. e.g.
>>>>>>> who (Board, SO/ACs, ICANN org, etc) needs to take responsibility for
>>>>>>> resolving each of the issues which have been identified. This is going to
>>>>>>> be tough. We all would like someone else to solve the problems, but if we
>>>>>>> want our issues to be addressed, we will have to step up to the plate and
>>>>>>> shoulder some of the work. I pointed out, during the webinar, that all of
>>>>>>> the volunteer communities were already so stretched that they might
>>>>>>> hesitate to take responsibility for yet another major project. He did say
>>>>>>> that he was aware of the problem and that  participants would get lots of
>>>>>>> support.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really suggest that there be some advance thought put into which
>>>>>>> issues at large should take some ownership of. Do we want to have our
>>>>>>> fingers in all the pies or just a few of them? Where should we concentrate
>>>>>>> our efforts? It would seem to make sense to come into this meeting with a
>>>>>>> united point of view
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This work will go on for the duration of the strategic plan, so it
>>>>>>> is certain to be a long haul.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marita
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