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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I also think it is now
        too late to throw this one into the package -- too many loose
        ends we haven't considered.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/2018 6:31 PM, Holly Raiche
      wrote:<br>
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      I’m afraid I am with Jonathan and Alan on this one.  Have we
      really worked through what an RFP would look like/be administered?
       Maybe a bold statement looks terrific, but Justine has spent a
      lot of time and effort working through how a process could be
      modified to accommodate our concerns (well done Justine) - and as
      Alan points out, have we really tested an RFP regime enough -
      against the benefits to the end user - such that we are confident
      in its benefits?
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      <div class="">Holly<br class="">
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            <div class="">On Dec 17, 2018, at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Zuck
              <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org" class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>>
              wrote:</div>
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                  11pt;" class="">I think we really need to choose our
                  battles in this one and that doesn't include changing
                  the whole program over...<br class="">
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                    sans-serif"><b class="">From:</b><span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>GTLD-WG <<a
href="mailto:gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
                    on behalf of Alexander Schubert <<a
                      href="mailto:alexander@schubert.berlin" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">alexander@schubert.berlin</a>><br
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                    <b class="">Sent:</b><span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
                    December 16, 2018 5:37:38 PM<br class="">
                    <b class="">To:</b><span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cpwg@icann.org</a><br
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                    <b class="">Subject:</b><span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:
                    [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Fwd: [registration-issues-wg] Call
                    for feedback on proposed At-Large/ALAC positions to
                    New gTLD Subsequent Procedures Supplemental Initial
                    Report</font>
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                  <div class="PlainText">Hi,<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    To that point (RFP-type of solution):<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    It seems that in the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of cases
                    it has been "portfolio applicants" squaring off
                    against each other; and they just wanted a "fair
                    compensation" for "giving up their asset". All of
                    them are the same "good" or "bad": they make the TLD
                    available via registrar channel.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Only a very small percentage of contention sets
                    ended up at the ICANN last resort love-fest. So I
                    think these few cases could be resolved in a RFP
                    style way.......<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    The question is: Even if ALAC is in agreement with
                    such stipulation; how to convince the rest of ICANN?<br
                      class="">
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                    Thanks,<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Alexander<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    -----Original Message-----<br class="">
                    From: GTLD-WG [<a
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                    On Behalf Of Gordon Chillcott<br class="">
                    Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 11:16 PM<br class="">
                    To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cw@christopherwilkinson.eu</a><br
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                    Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">cpwg@icann.org</a><br
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                    Subject: Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] Fwd:
                    [registration-issues-wg] Call for feedback on
                    proposed At-Large/ALAC positions to New gTLD
                    Subsequent Procedures Supplemental Initial Report<br
                      class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Christopher:<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Although I am not a fan of the idea of an auction of
                    any type, I am warming to the idea that this might
                    be the most feasible alternative.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Of the other candidate solutions, the best would
                    probably be the Request for Proposal (RFP) route. 
                    This would answer the one question that auctions are
                    weakest on - how is this applicant qualified to
                    operate this particular TLD?<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Having said that, Requests for Proposal would need
                    to be quite carefully<br class="">
                    crafted.      Criteria for selection of an applicant
                    would need to be<br class="">
                    carefully and specifically described in order to
                    measure the applicant against the purpose of the new
                    TLD.  This is not easy and, in fact, can be
                    expensive.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
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                    <br class="">
                    Collection and evaluation of the responses, which is
                    going to involve carefully measuring the response 
                    against the RFP's  criteria to find<br class="">
                    “the best fit”   .is another effort that  would need
                    to be considered<br class="">
                    and costed out.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Part of that cost, by the way, is the time required
                    to develop the RFP, collect the responses and
                    evaluate them – all of which contribute to the<br
                      class="">
                    length of time needed to make a decision.  <span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    My own experience suggests that these costs would 
                    need to be examined and compared to the cost of an
                    auction of whatever type.<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    Gordon Chillcott<br class="">
                    Greater Toronto Area Linux Users Group<br class="">
                    <br class="">
                    On Wed, 2018-12-12 at 21:28 +0100,<span
                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu" class=""
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                      class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br
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                    > Pour memoire<br class="">
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                    > CW<br class="">
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                    > _______________________________________________<br
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                    > CPWG mailing list<br class="">
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                    <br class="">
                    _______________________________________________<br
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                    CPWG mailing list<br class="">
                    <a href="mailto:CPWG@icann.org" class=""
                      moz-do-not-send="true">CPWG@icann.org</a><br
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                    _______________________________________________<br
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                    GTLD-WG mailing list<br class="">
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                    Working Group direct URL:<span
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                      href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs"
                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs</a><br
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                    <br class="">
                    _______________________________________________<br
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                    CPWG mailing list<br class="">
                    <a href="mailto:CPWG@icann.org" class=""
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                    _______________________________________________<br
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                      href="https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs"
                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/New+GTLDs</a></div>
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CPWG mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:CPWG@icann.org">CPWG@icann.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/cpwg</a>
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