<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">On 14 Nov 2019, at 03:37, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> wrote:<br><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">´╗┐Thank you for the explanation and clarification, Justine. Doesnt sound as doom and gloom as initially assumed. </div></blockquote><div><br></div>Maybe, but re:<div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Anyone who can share her/his reflection on</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/#comment-2257744">https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/#comment-2257744</a><br><div><br></div><div>?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Bastiaan</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 4:33 PM Justine Chew, <<a href="mailto:justine.chew@gmail.com">justine.chew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved.<br><br>The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council.<br><br>PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.<br><br>We shall see.</div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>Justine </font><br>-----</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters?<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking?<br>
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Maureen <br>
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask.<br>
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</dd><dd>Subject: ISOC sells PIR <br>
</dd><dd>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:38:29 +0000 <br>
</dd><dd>From: Stephanie Perrin <a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA></a>
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</dd><dd> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light.  I will keep you posted as I learn more.<br>
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