[Rt4-whois] FW: Offline comments on WHOIS Policy Review Team Draft Report

[Olof Nordling]

Hi Kathy, 
I think that would be inappropriate, given the commenter's decision NOT to convey it by using the public comments box....
Best
Olof

-----Original Message-----
From: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Kleiman
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:51 PM
To: rt4-whois at icann.org
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] FW: Offline comments on WHOIS Policy Review Team Draft Report

Thanks Olof, could you kindly post these comments to our public comment box?
Tx you and so many thanks for all your help and support and guidance, Kathy

:
> Dear Review Team Members,
> Please find some offline comments to the report, received today, for your attention and considerations.
> Very best regards
> Olof
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Sullivan [mailto:ajs at crankycanuck.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 4:38 PM
> To: Olof Nordling
> Subject: Offline comments on WHOIS Policy Review Team Draft Report
>
> Dear Mr Nordling,
>
> In my public posting commenting on the recent WHOIS review team 
> report, I mentioned that I found some nits.  I'm sending them to you 
> as the staff support for the team.  These are some (occasionally very
> serious) technical errors that I found while reading the Whois Policy Review Team report.  I didn't include them in my public posting because I thought they might distract from the more substantive issues I wanted to focus on there.  But I urge the team to fix these errors; they seriously undermine the credibility of the report.  Please feel free to share this mail as widely as you wish.
>
>      - The description of domain names in the Executive Summary is
>      either completely wrong, or a mistaken and misleading attempt to
>      gloss over complexities about the DNS name space. This might not
>      matter except that, if people are to take seriously proposals for
>      better management of domain name registration data, the details of
>      what a domain name is really need to be correct.  Rather than
>      fixing this, the entire passage might be removed without any harm:
>      someone who cannot already recognize a DNS name will probably not
>      care about WHOIS at all.
>
>      - The introduction of WHOIS at the end of section B seems to
>      suggest that WHOIS is for domain name registration data; but the
>      WHOIS protocol has also historically been used for number
>      resources (as Appendix G states), and that history may be part of
>      the reason why the protocol has some of the limitations it has.
>      This could be fixed with a minor adjustment to the description.
>
>      - The mention of alternatives to the WHOIS protocol in Chapter 5
>      (footnote 17, page 44) talks about CRISP.  But CRISP is not a
>      protocol, and RFC 3707 is in fact a requirements document -- one
>      that, if its specification were met, would address many of the
>      issues with the WHOIS protocol and permit a better service.  The
>      IRIS protocol (RFC 3982) was the development that followed from
>      the CRISP requirements.  The narrow issue could be fixed by
>      altering the reference.  (At a more substantive level, IRIS was
>      what resulted the last time the Internet community determined that
>      WHOIS was not the answer to registration data problems, and the
>      report might be stronger if it explored why those previous
>      attempts to replace WHOIS did not succeed.)
>
> In Appendix G:
>
>      - The example IP address is not in any normal presentation format
>      for IP addresses, and it is very hard to see how it could be an IP
>      address in any of the more obscure ways of writing IP addresses.
>
>      - DNS is not only used to translate names to numbers.
>
>      - The entire discussion of whois lookup in a thin-registry context
>      ignores the way whois referral works, and appears to suggest that
>      people who do not know how to operate the tool ought to be able to
>      operate it without learning how.
>
> In Appendix H:
>
>      - The definitions of A-label and LDH-label most certainly do not
>      overlap.
>
>      - WHOIS was not originally specified in RFC 954, but in RFC 812,
>      published in 1982.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
> ajs at crankycanuck.ca
>
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