<html><head><base href="x-msg://126/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Peter<div><br></div><div>Thanks for your comments. As a general point, I agree that it's important for us to be vigilant about keeping the Wiki up to date. On our last call, we decided that the issue of consumer trust needs more work. The questionnaire could be moved to the work in progress section, and then it's clear to anyone outside the team who looks that it is not a finalised document. </div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Emily</div><div><br><div><div>On 4 Mar 2011, at 04:56, Nettlefold, Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-AU" link="black" vlink="black"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hello again all,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I’ve just been looking on the review team’s public wiki, and noticed a few things that I think should be amended and discussed. I’m hesitant to put these changes into the wiki without the agreement of the review team as a whole.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>1.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I see that the recently adopted definition of law enforcement has been added to the wiki. Thank you to Alice for that. However, I note that the page has a table that was not discussed, or agreed on, during our call. I would suggest that this table be removed, at least until the review team has had a chance to discuss it.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>2.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I note that the applicable laws definition has not been updated since our call. Similarly, the definition of producers and maintainers. Can these now be updated with our agreed definitions?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>3.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I have just noticed that the proposed ‘consumer trust’ survey is also on the wiki. I think that if we’re going to stakeholders on this, we should carefully consider the best way to do this. My view is that that open questions give stakeholders a better opportunity to put their views across and explain their thinking. For this reason, I raised concerns with the current closed and quantitative survey. I had thought that the review team agreed to discuss this further before its release. As it would be desirable to avoid confusing stakeholders with several different surveys, I suggest that the survey on the wiki be removed until the review team has a chance to substantively discuss it.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 18pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>4.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I also note that there is a questionnaire hosted under the ‘outreach plan’ tab. I do recall some email traffic about this questionnaire, and I’m sorry if I missed this while I was on leave, but I do not recall the review team agreeing to it. I see that it has very detailed questions, and explicitly states that it is from ‘the review team’. While I’m not opposed to the questionnaire as such (although I do have queries about some of the questions, and note that it uses old definitions etc), I would ask whether this is/was intended to be separate from the consumer trust survey? My point about multiple surveys (in point 3 above) would seem to apply here.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I am concerned about the process for posting documents on the wiki, particularly when they are posted in the name of the review team as a whole. Perhaps this could be briefly discussed in San Francisco?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nettlefold, Peter<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, 4 March 2011 9:40 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:'lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; ">'lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>'; Dr. Sarmad Hussain<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'RT4 WHOIS'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer" [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Sorry for the slow reply, but I also think this is a good basis for our consultation.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I have two brief comments:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 38.5pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>1.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I think we need an ‘or’ in the WHOIS consumer category list, rather than an ‘and’ (otherwise it would be a very high bar indeed to be considered to be a consumer). I’ve made that change below in capitals so it stands out.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 38.5pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 38.5pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>2.<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I’m not sure what is meant by a ‘provider’. I note that this isn’t a category we’ve used in the ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition that we’ve agreed to go forward with. So, is there an example of a ‘provider’ that is not captured under the ‘maintainer’ definition? If so, do we need to revisit our ‘Producers and Maintainers’ definition?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Also, and just for the future, I think it was Kathy (?) that noted on our call that one sleeper in this formulation is the word ‘legitimately’ (and the inherent reference to its converse: ‘illegitimate’). It will be interesting to see what the public comment returns on this, as this will be one (of the many) issues we will need to focus on in some detail going forward.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; ">rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of</b><a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; ">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 3 March 2011 3:10 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dr. Sarmad Hussain<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'RT4 WHOIS'<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thank you Dr. Sarmad! I like this last edited draft and would be happy to have this published for public comment.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Lynn<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote id="replyBlockquote" style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1pt; padding-top: 0cm; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 4pt; margin-left: 4pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div id="wmQuoteWrapper"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"<br>From: "Dr. Sarmad Hussain" <<a href="mailto:sarmad@cantab.net" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; ">sarmad@cantab.net</span></a>><br>Date: Wed, March 02, 2011 4:55 am<br>To: "'James M. Bladel'" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; ">jbladel@godaddy.com</span></a>>, "'RT4 WHOIS'"<br><<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; ">rt4-whois@icann.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Ok, though with minor wording adjustments; see below.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</span></a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of</b>James M. Bladel<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:21 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RT4 WHOIS<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Rt4-whois] Proposed Definition: "Consumer"</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Team:</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">As discussed during our call, here is the proposed bifurcated definition of "consumer" for inclusion in our call for comments. It has been chopped up a bit for readability, but I did endeavor to preserve the overall meaning.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">I've also modified the "Feedback Requested" to be more open ended.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thoughts / feeedback? I'm off to bed now, but will check back in a few hours.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thanks--</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">J.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">_________________________________</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">In the global sense, "consumer"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">may<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">mean:</span></b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify; "><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> * All Internet users including natural persons, commercial and non-commercial entities, government and academic entities,<br><br></span></i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify; "><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><br><br></span></i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify; "><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">And specifically within the context of this review, a "</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">consumer</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">"</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>w.r.t. WHOIS data and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">W</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">hois</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Service</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">may</span></b><b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">mean:</span></b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">* Any consumer that acts as a Producer of WHOIS data (see above), Maintainer</span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>of WHOIS data and Provider of Whois Service</span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(e.g. Registrars),<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: red; ">OR</span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>User</span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>of WHOIS data</span></i><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">(e.g. individuals, commercial or non-commercial entities who legitimately query the WHOIS data.).</span></i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify; "><i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><br><br></span></i><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><b><u><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Feedback request from community</span></u></b><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; "><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify; "><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Community feedback is desired on the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">WHOIS<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">Review Team's approach to this definition. Is it too broad or too restrictive? <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">In either case, how should it be changed.</span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">No virus found in this incoming message.<br>Checked by AVG -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.avg.com" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">www.avg.com</span></a><br>Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3475 - Release Date: 03/02/11 00:34:00</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; "><hr size="3" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: black; ">_______________________________________________<br>Rt4-whois mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">Rt4-whois@icann.org</span></a><br><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois" style="color: black; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: blue; ">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></blockquote></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><b>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------</b><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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