<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I agree with Omar and thanks Kathy for your hard work. <div><br></div><div>Kim <br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 1 Jun 2011, at 15:13, Omar Kaminski wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Kathy,<br><br>Thanks for this important input on "applicable laws". I agree it's a<br>small step - on a still obscure/undone path.<br><br>Omar<br><br><br>2011/6/1 Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>>:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">** Two quick notes: (1) I asked Liz Gasster to review the "Clarity of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">existing policy" section, and she found I/we had left out something -- a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">consensus procedure called " 'Handling WHOIS conflicts with Privacy Law'<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(effective January 2008) which details how ICANN will respond to a situation<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">where a registrar or registry indicates it is legally prevented by<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">local/national privacy laws or regulations from complying with the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">provisions of its ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">distribution of personal data via WHOIS. The procedure is for use by ICANN<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">staff and did not change the obligations of registries, registrars or third<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">parties when approved by the GNSO and adopted by the Board."<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I have included the text above at the end of the Clarity of existing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">policy. For those who passed it, it was seen as a small step for ICANN<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">since it did not allow registries and registrars to pro-actively bring<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">themselves into compliance with laws, but only to wait until they are called<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">out as being in violation. So it was seen as a first step, but a small<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">step.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Nonetheless, Liz is right in advising that we might include it -- so I have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">done so subject to your approval -- to the changes already circulated by<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Peter on the current draft.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(2) Alice and Olof -- will it be possible to insert links to all of the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">policies and procedures in the final version so people can easily find<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">them?? Tx you!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Best,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Kathy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hello all,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unfortunately I won’t be able to make tonight’s call on the discussion<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">paper, and have instead made some comments and suggestions in the attached<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(in revision mode, and with comment boxes) which I hope will be helpful.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I think the paper is starting to look very good, and one that will hopefully<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">draw out some useful community feedback.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As you’ll see, I’ve noted a couple of questions that I think we’d already<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">agreed to delete, and also proposed an additional sub-component to one<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">question which I’d be very interested to get community feedback on. I’ve<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">also commented on the proposed ‘costs’ section of the paper, which I have<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">some questions and concerns about.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I look forward to reviewing the version that comes out of tonight’s call<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">asap after its available.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Peter<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org">rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Behalf Of Olof Nordling<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2011 6:22 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [Rt4-whois] WHOIS Review - updated draft following today's call<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dear Review Team Members,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Today’s call, chaired by Kathy and attended by Peter, Susan, Bill, Kim and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Omar, focused on agenda item 1, advancing the issues paper. Edits were made<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">up to the end of the second question box on page 5, as marked in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">attached version. The list of consensus policies was moved above the first<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">question box and the team decided to include hyperlinks to main documents.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">PLEASE NOTE: When adding the hyperlinks, I noted that items 3 and 4 in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">consensus policy list on page 4 seem to relate to the same instrument,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">notably the WHOIS Marketing Restriction Policy, so I reflected that in the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">drafting, marked by red. This is to be confirmed, though!<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Also, please correct (and bear with me…) if I missed or misunderstood any of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the decided edits.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Very best regards<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Olof<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The information transmitted is for the use of the intended recipient only<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. 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