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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I also like the survey in general but the selection of Whois site and domain name are interrelated. My feeling is that the survey should test how users react to dealing first with a “thin” Whois because one issue we are to evaluate is the impact of having centralized “thin” Whois services and decentralized “thick” Whois services.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Internic seems to be a “thin” Whois in respect to some domain names and a “thick” Whois in respect to others. It’s thin for Google.com, somewhat thin for the redcross.org, but thick for Wikipedia.org and UN.org.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Of course people do not distrust Google (at least in terms of not being locatable) so I am not sure that Google.com and Internic Whois is the right combination.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If we are going to give them a Whois web address, then I would prefer the users experience it “thin” and have to figure out where to go from there.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On another note, I was giving a talk on legal entity names to a room of 150 company lawyers on Friday and asked for a show of hands who knew what Whois was? Less than 10% responded affirmatively. I expect that Whois awareness may be somewhat higher on the part of paralegals in the US since it is the paralegals who generally have the task of looking behind businesses.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Lynn, for all the good work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Seth <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kim G. von Arx<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 24, 2011 5:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> <lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com><br><b>Cc:</b> rt4-whois@icann.org; Jonathan Yardley<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rt4-whois] Requesting team feedback on questionnaire for consumer trust survey<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Makes sense to me. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In that regard I agree with your interNiC suggestion. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kim<br><br>Please excuse my typos! This is sent from my iPhone. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 2011-09-24, at 22:43, <<a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks Kim,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>We missed you in L.A. but understand.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Your suggestion of the United Nations or Red Cross are great!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks for your time and thought in reviewing.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I am taking this feedback and Sharon's comments back to User Insight for<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>further consultation.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>If anyone else has further comments or suggestions, please let me know tomorrow.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>The predicament we have about which Whois page or site to use is that in the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>qualitative interviews, it was clear that there is a very low awareness that there<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>is any kind of look-up or directory service for domain name owners. And the name<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>"Whois" is certainly not well known. We can expect that almost all the online survey recipients<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>will not be familiar with the term "Whois".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Just my impression was that the in person interviews showed that when people were<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>asked to research a website, they used several different methods and did not always<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>find a Whois page.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>In this next step of research, the challenge is that this will be an online survey and<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>people have to have pretty specific direction and choices. So we do want them to "find"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>a Whois page.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Lynn<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' id=replyBlockquote><div id=wmQuoteWrapper><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Requesting team feedback on questionnaire for<br>consumer trust survey<br>From: <a href="mailto:kim@vonarx.ca">kim@vonarx.ca</a><br>Date: Sat, September 24, 2011 9:51 pm<br>To: <a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a>, "Jonathan Yardley" <<a href="mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com">jyardley@userinsight.com</a>><br><br>Dear Lynn et al:<br><br>Thank you very much for all the hard work.<br><br>I think the questionnaire is very good. I was quite impressed by the<br>simplicity and insight it conveyed.<br><br>With respect to the WHOIS service they should be using, I suggest that<br>should be open, i.e, the user should try to find one for themselves. <br>Having said that, I am not sure how much or what kind of beneficial data<br>that would add, but I think it may be a point worth raising.<br><br>With respect to the Internet site, I would suggest we go with the United<br>Nations website. I believe that all countries should be aware of the UN. <br>Alternatively, how about the Red Cross?<br><br>Finally, with respect to the questions themselves. I think that there<br>should be something more in there with respect to concerns and or<br>questions those participants may have about the WHOIS service. Indeed,<br>there should be section for someone to does have domain name to look up<br>his/her own information and seeing what is out there about him/her and<br>then to have some information on what his/her thoughts are about that.<br><br>I believe the structure of the questions if well thought out and flows<br>quite nicely.<br><br>All in all, I believe this is well done. Thanks again for the hard work. <br>I am very sorry that I did not make it to the LA meeting, but things are<br>crazy on my end here on the personal front and I am really barely keeping<br>my head above water.<br><br>All the best,<br><br>Kim<br><br><br>> <html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;<br>> font-size:10pt;"><div>Dear All,</div><br>> <div>I am forwarding below the preliminary questionnaire for the consumer<br>> trust survey, attached to this message.</div><br>> <div>(The User Insight team is okay with this being distributed on the<br>> Whois email list.)</div><br>> <div>I have copied Jonathan Yardley on this message as a courtesy.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>We are working with a tight deadline and we need feedback this<br>> weekend.&nbsp; I know this is a dedicated</div><br>> <div>team so appreciate your time in off business hours.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>In particular, please see the last section of<br>> questions.&nbsp;&nbsp;As the last part of the survey,&nbsp;we would like<br>> for the participants to</div><br>> <div>actually experience the Whois lookup.&nbsp; We need&nbsp;to decide<br>> on&nbsp;a website domain name to use for this purpose.</div><br>> <div>Does anyone have a suggestion for a well known global website we<br>> could use in the survey?&nbsp; My sense is that</div><br>> <div>Wikipedia would be recognized in Europe and North America but not<br>> sure if it would work everywhere.</div><br>> <div>But it would be neutral in the sense that it is not a trading or<br>> commercial website.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>Another question is which Whois lookup page should we use?</div><br>> <div>My thought is to use the InterNIC one because it covers all current<br>> registries.&nbsp; Here is the link for reference:</div><br>> <div><br>> href="<a href="http://www.internic.net/whois.html">http://www.internic.net/whois.html</a>"><a href="http://www.internic.net/whois.html%3c/div%3e">http://www.internic.net/whois.html</div></a><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>I am thinking&nbsp;that InterNIC&nbsp;is more "neutral" than trying<br>> to use the&nbsp;Whois page of&nbsp;one of the bigger registries or<br>> registrars.</div><br>> <div>Kathy and James - as representatives of the registry and registrar<br>> constituency, would especially appreciate your</div><br>> <div>suggestions on this point.&nbsp; Note that we would lose the point<br>> about domain ads being displayed if we decide to use InterNIC.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>The alternative would be to choose 3 WHOIS lookup pages.&nbsp; The<br>> survey would have each participant look at 2 of them and</div><br>> <div>the surveys would be distributed to obtain balanced results among<br>> those 3.&nbsp; I am just not sure how to pick 3.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>Please note that all the questions will be translated to the primary<br>> language for each country.</div><br>> <div>Also, there are some questions with specific examples that will be<br>> modified for appropriate examples in each country.</div><br>> <div>The English questions here are using U.S. examples.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>Sarmad, I will follow up with you separately on the point about<br>> non-Latin characters being unavailable in Whois lookups.</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>Please come back to me with any other questions.</div><br>> <div>Best regards to all,</div><br>> <div>Lynn</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <div>&nbsp;</div><br>> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 8px;<br>> FONT-FAMILY: verdana; COLOR: black; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"<br>> id=replyBlockquote webmail="1"><br>> <DIV id=wmQuoteWrapper>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject:<br>> Version 2<BR>From: Jonathan Yardley &lt;<br>> href="<a href="mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com">mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com</a>"><a href="mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com">jyardley@userinsight.com</a>&gt;<BR>Date:<br>> Fri, September 23, 2011 2:32 pm<BR>To: <br>> href="<a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>"><a href="mailto:lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com">lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com</a>,<br>> <a href="mailto:jmorgan@userinsight.com">jmorgan@userinsight.com</a>,<br>> Rachel<BR>Walsh &lt;<br>> href="<a href="mailto:rwalsh@userinsight.com">mailto:rwalsh@userinsight.com</a>"><a href="mailto:rwalsh@userinsight.com">rwalsh@userinsight.com</a>&gt;<BR><BR>Hi<br>> Lynn,<BR>Here is V2. Please socialize with your team. In particular we<br>> would like help with selecting a universal URL for people to search for<br>> the owner of.<BR>Thanks-JCY<BR><BR><BR>Jonathan Yardley<BR>Director,<br>> Project Management<BR><br>> href="<a href="mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com">mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com</a>"><a href="mailto:jyardley@userinsight.com">jyardley@userinsight.com</a><BR><BR>UserInsight<BR>T<br>> 770 391 1099 ext. 1401<BR>C 404 542 8594<BR>Ui Blog | @UserInsight | AIM:<br>> jonyard<BR><BR>An Inc. 5000 Fastest Growing Company - 2008, 2009 &amp;<br>> 2010<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></span></body></html>_______________________________________________<br>> Rt4-whois mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org">Rt4-whois@icann.org</a><br>> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois</a><br>><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></body></html>