<html><body><span style="font-family:Arial; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Thanks for sharing Kathy.</div><div><br>RT4: This was an action item from the IRTP-B PDP working group.</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [Rt4-whois] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Comment Period RE: Preliminary<br>
Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois<br>
From: Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>><br>
Date: Tue, November 22, 2011 10:20 am<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a>><br>
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And as if to read our minds, the GNSO is working on the Thick Whois/Thin Whois problems. A very good step for them to take.<br> <br> FYI,<br> Kathy<br> <br> -------- Original Message -------- <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th> <td>[NCSG-Discuss] Comment Period RE: Preliminary Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th> <td>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:47:16 -0800</td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th> <td>Robin Gross <a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG"><robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Reply-To: </th> <td>Robin Gross <a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG"><robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG></a></td> </tr> <tr> <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th> <td><a target="_blank" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <br> <br> <div> <div>Begin forwarded message:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite" style="border-left: blue 2px solid; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px;"> <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Glen de Saint Géry <<a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Glen@icann.org">Glen@icann.org</a>><br> </span></div> <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">November 21, 2011 3:07:29 PM PST<br> </span></div> <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">liaison6c <<a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:liaison6c@gnso.icann.org">liaison6c@gnso.icann.org</a>><br> </span></div> <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>[liaison6c] Preliminary Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois</b><br> </span></div> <br> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="FR"> <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size:12pt;; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 12pt; "><span lang="EN-US">Preliminary Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois Comment Period Deadlines</span><sup><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; " lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></sup></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; ">Important Information Links<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/thick-whois-preliminary-report-21nov11-en.htm" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Public Comment Box</a><o:p></o:p></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Open Date:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>21 November 2011<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:thick-whois-preliminary-report@icann.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">To Submit Your Comments (Forum)</span></a><o:p></o:p></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Close Date:</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>30 December 2011<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Time (UTC):</span></strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>23:59<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/thick-whois-preliminary-report/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">View Comments Submitted</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Section I: Description, Explanation, and Purpose</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US">ICANN Staff is seeking comments on its<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/preliminary-report-thick-whois-21nov11-en.pdf" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">Preliminary Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[PDF, 635 KB]. Specifically, this Report addresses not only a possible requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs in the context of the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP), but also considers any other positive and/or negative effects that are likely to occur outside of IRTP that would need to be taken into account when deciding whether a requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs would be desirable or not.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US">The Preliminary Issue Report informs the GNSO Council concerning the possible requirement of 'thick' Whois for all incumbent gTLDs in advance of the Council's vote on whether to commence a Policy Development Process (PDP) on this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US">This Public Comment solicitation represents an opportunity for the ICANN community to provide its views on this topic and on whether a Policy Development Process should be initiated to consider the requirement of 'thick' Whois for all incumbent gTLDs. This Preliminary Issue Report will be updated to reflect community feedback submitted through this forum. A Final Issue Report will then be presented to the GNSO Council for its consideration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Section II: Background</span></strong><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span lang="EN-US">In the context of the Inter-Registrar Transfer Policy (IRTP) Part A as well as the Part B Working Group, the issue of 'thick' Whois was discussed and it was noted that: “The benefit would be that in a thick registry one could develop a secure method for a gaining registrar to gain access to the registrant contact information. Currently there is no standard means for the secure exchange of registrant details in a thin registry. In this scenario, disputes between the registrant and admin contact could be reduced, as the registrant would become the ultimate approver of a transfer”. At the same time it was noted that even though requiring 'thick' Whois for all incumbent gTLDs would have benefits in the context of transfers, it would be important to explore 'any other potential positive or negative effects that are likely to occur outside of IRTP that would need to be taken into account'. As a result, the IRTP Part B Working Group recommended requesting: “an Issue Report on the requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs. Such an Issue Report and possible subsequent Policy Development Process should not only consider a possible requirement of 'thick' WHOIS or all incumbent gTLDs in the context of IRTP, but should also consider any other positive and/or negative effects that are likely to occur outside of IRTP that would need to be taken into account when deciding whether a requirement of 'thick' WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs would be desirable or not”. This recommendation that was adopted by the GNSO Council at its meeting on 22 September 2011 (see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/</span></a><span lang="EN-US">).<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Section III: Document and Resource Links</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/preliminary-report-thick-whois-21nov11-en.pdf" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">Preliminary Issue Report on 'Thick' Whois</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[PDF, 635 KB]<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; " lang="EN-US">Section IV: Additional Information</span></strong><span lang="EN-US"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>None<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Staff Contact:</span></strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Marika Konings<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Email:</span></strong><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:policy-staff@icann.org?subject=More%20information%20on%20the%20Preliminary%20Issue%20Report%20on%20Thick%20Whois%20public%20comment%20period" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span lang="EN-US">policy-staff@icann.org</span></a><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Glen de Saint Géry<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">GNSO Secretariat<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso.secretariat@gnso.icann.org" style="color: blue; 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