<html><body><span style="font-family:Arial; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Agree that we should be consistent, but I have minor quibbles with both definitions. (Of course!)</div><div><br></div><div>We don't want the end-user to be called the "Registrant," and "Licensee" has other legal meanings in some jurisdictions. The term we use internally is "Beneficial User," but while it may be legally pure it may be counter-intuitive for our purposes.</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div> <br></div>
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Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy<br>
From: Emily Taylor <<a href="mailto:emily@emilytaylor.eu">emily@emilytaylor.eu</a>><br>
Date: Tue, November 29, 2011 1:31 am<br>
To: Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susank@fb.com">susank@fb.com</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a>><br>
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Hi Susan, Seth, Peter<br><br>Thanks for your thoughts on this. I agree on consistency, and will be happy to go with whatever you guys think best.<br><br>Alice - you can edit in as appropriate, yes?<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"> On 29 November 2011 00:39, Susan Kawaguchi <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:susank@fb.com">susank@fb.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"> <div> <div><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Hello All, <u></u><u></u></span></b></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.5pt">We seem to use varying definitions of privacy and proxy. I found these two </span> definitions of both terms in our draft report<span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">In Chapter 4 page 43 <u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"> <u></u><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span>u<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><b><i>Privacy Services </i></b>provide the Registrant's Name, but the Privacy Service's contact information. The Privacy Service passes on non-spam messages to the Registrant, particularly legal notices, acting as a type of “registered agent.”<u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"> <u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"> <u></u><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span>u<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><u></u><b><i>Proxy Services</i></b> register the domain name and license it to another for use. <u></u><u></u></div> <div><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Chapter 8 Page 80<u></u><u></u></div> <div><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Privacy </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">services limit certain user details from WHOIS by offering alternate contact information and mail forwarding services, while not actually shielding the user’s identity. <u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">Proxy </span></i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black">services have a third-party register domain names on the user’s behalf and then license the use of the domain name so that a third-party’s contact information (and not the licensee’s) is published in WHOIS. <u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">I prefer the definitions from the Sept. 28, 2009 NORC report. <u></u><u></u></span></div> <div><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt">Background </span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.5pt">To ensure that the community can identify who is responsible for a domain name, a registered name holder is required to provide and update, as needed, their contact information with their registrar of record. Registrars are required by ICANN to collect and provide free public access to the name of the registered domain name and its name servers and registrar, the date the domain was created and when its registration expires, and the contact information for the Registered Name Holder, the technical contact, and the administrative contact. <u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div><span style="font-size:11.5pt">In some instances, a registered name holder chooses to limit the amount of personal information that its registrar of record makes available to the public via a Whois query of their database. To do so, a registered name holder generally uses a privacy or proxy registration service. For the purpose of this study, the definitions of privacy and proxy services, as they relate to their use in the domain name system, are as follows: <u></u><u></u></span></div> <div><b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></b></div> <div><b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></b></div> <div><b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt">A privacy service provider </span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt">offers the registrant an opportunity to register a domain name while concealing some personal identifying information listed in a WHOIS directory, such as his or her address, telephone number, or email address, by providing alternate contact information, often that of the privacy service provider. </span></i><span style="font-size:11.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt">A proxy service provider </span></i></b><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt">registers the domain name on the registrant’s behalf and then licenses the use of the domain name to the registrant. The contact information in a WHOIS directory for a domain name registered with a proxy service is that of the proxy service provider.</span></i><u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">There may be an intentional use of the other definitions that I am not aware of but I feel we should provide an extremely clear definition of each term since they are currently used interchangeably in the marketplace. <u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Susan<u></u><u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Susan Kawaguchi<u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Domain Name Manager<u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Facebook Inc.<u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">1601 California Avenue<u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Palo Alto, CA<u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Phone - <a href="tel:650%20485-6064" value="+16504856064" target="_blank">650 485-6064</a><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Cell - <a href="tel:650%20387%203904" value="+16503873904" target="_blank">650 387 3904</a><u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas"><u></u> <u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Please note my email address has changed to <a href="mailto:skawaguchi@fb.com" target="_blank">skawaguchi@fb.com</a> <u></u><u></u></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">NOTICE: This email (including any attachments) may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client or other privilege. 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