Dear RT,<br><br>Should law enforcement be considered more a result of a kind of moral (and coletive) will, based on rules dictated or adopted, perhaps more than something to be enforced (en-force) by an entity, that could be the police in first instance and the judges in the last? Anyway since the early times we have "people appointed
to maintain the standards and rules of the tribe or other society". <br><br>I think this instance is the result of not observing or obeying the law, not the law enforcement itself as a result. As I found somewhere, "<em>Law enforcement </em>is the collective term for professionals who
are dedicated to upholding and enforcing the laws and statutes that are
currently in force in a given jurisdiction"<a href="http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-jurisdiction.htm"></a>. <br><br>But it could be also a matter of different points of view or interpretations under a certain or specific context. To prevent versus to repress.<br>
<br>My quick two cents.<br><br>Best regards from br,<br><br>Omar<br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/30 LEMON, Sharon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk">sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk</a>></span><br>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Emily,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Happy with
this definition:</font></span></div><div class="im">
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US">Any entity charged
or otherwise mandated by governments with enforcing or ensuring observance of or
obedience to the law; an organised body of people officially maintained or
employed to keep order, prevent or detect crime and enforce the
law</span></font></span></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
</div><div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Moving
intro to DNS to Appendices good ideas. </font></span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Alice had the latest
version, with Lutz's included.</font></span></div><div class="im">
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Sharon</font></span></div>
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<p><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Sharon LEMON
OBE</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Deputy
Director</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Cyber and Forensics</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Serious and Organised Crime Agency
(SOCA)</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">07768
290902</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">0207
855 2800</font></span> </p>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Emily Taylor
[mailto:<a href="mailto:emily@emilytaylor.eu" target="_blank">emily@emilytaylor.eu</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 30 November 2011
14:30<br><b>To:</b> LEMON, Sharon<br><b>Cc:</b>
<a href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org" target="_blank">rt4-whois@icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rt4-whois] WHOIS Policy RT - Law
Enforcement comments.<br><br></font></div></div><div><div></div><div class="h5">Hi Sharon<br><br>Thanks for working
through this.<br><br>Sorry to say it, but I will - I don't think your new
version of the law enf. definition will work. It includes the world and
his wife. Can I have your snap response to the following
proposal:<br><br>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT:18pt"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US">Any
entity charged or otherwise mandated by governments with enforcing or ensuring
observance of or obedience to the law; an organised body of people officially
maintained or employed to keep order, prevent or detect crime and enforce the
law.<br></span></p><br>Unfortunately, your colleague from Canada was working
to quite an old draft, which has been superseded several times over. I
can see the comments, and note what is said about impact. We have been
discussing moving chunks into appendices. Would the intro to the domain
name system be a good candidate?<br><br>Can you give me finalised text for
that section, please, which incorporates the latest comments made by Lutz and
others - this version seems to be based on an older draft.<br><br>The comments
from Gary and others later in the text, and gap analysis are good. I'd
like to see how we can incorporate some of them. At the moment my priorities
are to get the bits lining up in the right places, and have the executive
summary, findings and recommendations agreed.<br><br>Kind
regards<br><br>Emily<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 November 2011 13:48, LEMON, Sharon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk" target="_blank">sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Dear Emily, Alice and
All,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">Sorry for arriving at the party
late, I have been watching in awe the hundreds of emails flying about.
We gave until today for our international colleagues to comment and we have
just had our own internal meeting to finalise the comments on the
paper.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">The paper complemented our
ongoing law enforcement work within the ICANN community and there are not
comments of major significance -ours are in green. I know that Alice
is currently going through the nightmare of trying to organise the version
control. (Good Luck and thanks Alice). </font></span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri">I have replaced the definition
of law enforcement with:</font></span></div>
<div><span></span><span></span><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US">Any entity with a
responsibility to enforce or ensure observance to or obedience of the law,
whether mandated by government or otherwise<span>.</span></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span></span></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span><font color="#0000ff">We could go on forever with this - but let me know if there
are any show stopping objections.</font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span><font color="#0000ff"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span><font color="#0000ff">I hope we make the deadline of 5pm
;-)</font></span></span></div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span><font color="#0000ff"></font></span></span> </div>
<div><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Calibri" lang="EN-US"><span><font color="#0000ff">Sharon</font></span></span></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Calibri"></font> </div>
<p><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Sharon LEMON
OBE</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Deputy Director</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Cyber and Forensics</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">Serious and Organised Crime
Agency (SOCA)</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">07768 290902</font></span> <br><span lang="en-gb"><font color="#808080" face="Calibri">0207 855 2800</font></span> </p>
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2011 17:54<br><b>To:</b> KIBBEY, Gary; ADDIS, Benedict<br><b>Cc:</b> CURLEY,
Cliona<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24
Nov - Clean CC GK Comments<br><br></font></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">My comments
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2011 14:34<br><b>To:</b> FLAHERTY, Jonathan; ADDIS, Benedict<br><b>Cc:</b>
CURLEY, Cliona<br><b>Subject:</b> FW: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>If you have any comments
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Ta </span></font></div>
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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Gary </span></font></div>
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