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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Dear Bill, colleagues -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">My understanding was exactly the <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">
same</span>, that no 're-location' was suggested. If there is a chance of misunderstanding, let's
<span style="background:lime;mso-highlight:lime">clarify</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Rgds,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Michael<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:RU">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Smith, Bill<br>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 9:44 PM<br>
To: Kathy Kleiman<br>
Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org<br>
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Updated GNSO Council meeting draft agenda 16 February 2012 at 15:00.</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">My understanding of what may be considered at the Council is a requirement to make all registries thick. The impact of this proposal would be limited (I believe) to .net and .com.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">While the discussion topic is "thick Whois", it differs from our discussion topic. I believe our recommendation is that a single point of access to all name WHOIS records should exist, regardless of where the data actually resides. An
implementation of such a service would traverse the DNS hierarchy until it finds content for the requested entry, or fails to find the entry.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">The location of the content is independent of the service and could be"radically thin" as I think Lutz has proposed. By "radically thin", I mean that the data would be highly distributed, only residing on individual name servers for
individual domains.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">A "radically thick" service would be one where a single name server held the content for all names. In the case of the DNS, there would likely be 13 copies corresponding to the 13 root servers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">My point here is that the GNSO Council <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">
issue is one of data location whereas our discussion is one of access and ease of use</span>. If our recommendation speaks to data location, I suggest we change it to make
<span style="background:lime;mso-highlight:lime">it clear that we do *not* intend for WHOIS data to move</span>.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On Feb 10, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">FYI that the issue of the Thick Whois, the very issue we are working on as well, is up for discussion in the upcoming GNSO Council meeting on 2/16.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Kathy<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">-----------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">From: owner-liaison6c@gnso.icann.org<mailto:owner-liaison6c@gnso.icann.org> [mailto:owner-liaison6c@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Glen de Saint Géry …………………………………………………………………………………… Agenda for GNSO Council Meeting – 16 February 2012 http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-council-16feb12-en.htm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Wiki agenda :<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Agenda+16+February+2012<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">*** Excerpted...****<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Meeting Time 15:00 UTC<<a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=GNSO+Council+meeting&iso=20120216T15&ah=2"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=GNSO+Council+meeting&iso=20120216T15&ah=2</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Coordinated Universal Time: 15:00 UTC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">07:00 Los Angeles; 10:00 Washington DC; 15:00 London; 16:00 Paris; 00:00 Tokyo; Item 3: 'thick' Whois Final Issue Report (10 minutes)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">As recommended by the IRTP Part B Working Group, the GNSO Council requested ICANN Staff to prepare an Issue Report on the requirement of ‘thick’ WHOIS for all incumbent gTLDs. The Preliminary Issue Report was published for public comment
(see <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-21nov11-en.htm">
<span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-21nov11-en.htm</span></a>).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Staff has now submitted the Final Issue Report,<<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf</span></a>>
which includes the report of comments received and additional updates as a result of the comments made. The GNSO Council will now consider the Final Issue Report<<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf</span></a>>
and decide whether or not to initiate a PDP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3.1 Presentation of Final Issue Report<<a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf</span></a>>
(Marika Konings)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/final-report-thick-whois-02feb12-en.pdf</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Refer to motion:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+16+February+2012"><span style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsocouncilmeetings/Motions+16+February+2012</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3.2 Reading of the motion (Stéphane Van Gelder)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3.3 Discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3.3 Vote<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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