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Hi All,<br>
Before I head off, I want to share what you would already know:<br>
1) I like the word legitimate. I think it reflects what we have all
said, and agreed to on a recent call, that there privacy rights and
legitimate privacy needs. I am sorry to see it go because I thought
it kept the balance when we deleted specific privacy rights bullet
point.<br>
<br>
2) But much more strongly, I oppose the deletion of the phrase “to
encourage proxy/privacy service providers to become accredited” from
the following sentence: <br>
==> "ICANN could, for example, use a mix of incentives and
graduated sanctions to encourage proxy/privacy service providers to
become accredited, and to ensure that registrars do not knowingly
accept registrations from unaccredited providers."<br>
<br>
I think Peter drafted the original statement (I hope I credited it
properly) and it captures well the consensus of the group -- what we
all agreed upon together. Delete it, and it becomes a mandate
requirement from the Review Team for accreditation, and we simply
don't have consensus on that (and I would have to write a minority
statement). <br>
<br>
(As I have shared -- after 10 years of work in the GNSO WHOIS arena
-- We have done more to progress discussion on this issue than any
group in 10 years. Make the standards voluntary at the start, and
the ICANN Community has an incentive to make the voluntary standards
balanced and fair, in hopes of the best practices becoming
permanent. Make them mandatory upfront, and groups know they are
competing for something that can be forced down other sides' throats
and won't compromise. There's a history here... )<br>
<br>
3) I think it's too late for a new recommendation. It's a good
bullet point, but I think it will delay our closure process to make
it a full recommendation. It fits very well where it is... <br>
<br>
4) Regarding the edits to the Full Report, will we all get a chance
to see them and review them? I think it would be good....<br>
<br>
Best and thanks,<br>
Kathy<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">My
comments on the current draft of Recommendation 10: Data
Access- Privacy and Proxy Services<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Findings:
Para 2: I agree with Peter to delete the word
“legitimate”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Recommendations:
top of next page beginning with “ICANN could, for example,
use a mix of”: I would delete the phrase “to encourage
proxy/privacy service providers to become accredited”.
Leaving the phrase in suggests that ICANN could tolerate a
community of non-accredited proxy/privacy providers and I
feel this is the wrong message to send.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Same
page bullet two: I am still confused who is provide the
full details and if the details are of the service provider
or the beneficiary user.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Last
paragraph last bullet. I like Peter’s comment “Clarifying
the issue of rights/responsibilities/liabilities should be
an essential part of the proxy/privacy discussion, with the
goal being clear and comprehensive guidance for the
community.” (I’ve tried to improve it a little). Can we
place this statement above as a recommendation separate from
the bullet points, perhaps as the second, third or fourth
paragraph under Recommendations. I sense that strengthening
this statement could address Susan’s concerns as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Seth<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org">rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org">mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nettlefold,
Peter<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 01, 2012 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU">In advance of tonight’s call, I just wanted to
note that there seem to be two versions on v6 out there –
one I sent yesterday with ‘v6 pn’ in the title, and more
recent version sent by Susan with ‘v6 Susan’s comments’.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU">I’m not commenting on the content as such, but
just noting the version issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU">Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org">rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org">mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kathy Kleiman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 2 May 2012 9:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org">rt4-whois@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rt4-whois] Executive Summary<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
lang="EN-AU">Hi All,<br>
I am sorry that I will not be able to attend the meeting in
a few hours (it's at 2am my time). Thanks to everyone for
all the discussion and editing! I support the Executive
Summary and IDN Comments. <br>
<br>
I wanted to share a particular support for the new
proxy/privacy point that Peter added. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.75in;line-height:12.25pt"><span
style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";background:yellow"
lang="EN-AU">providing clear and unambiguous guidance on the
rights and responsibilities of registered name holders, and
how those should be managed in the privacy/proxy environment</span><span
lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I'm happy to work with
Alice on removing all the comments I inserted... and
regards to all!<br>
Kathy<br>
<br>
: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-AU">Thank you all for your hard work on the
executive summary. I have made a few comments but for
the most part I am in agreement with the current draft.
</span></span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-AU"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-AU">Talk to you tonight. </span></span><span
style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""
lang="EN-AU"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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