[Ssr2-review] Drafting

Geoff Huston gih at apnic.net
Thu Nov 2 02:13:10 UTC 2017


Eric,

Just as a data point, I questioned paf and Rod last night as to whether they expected a letter as an outcome of your meeting with them yesterday, and they informed me that they had no expectation of any such letter. I assume they have no concerns about me reporting this information back to the entire SSR2 list, but I will copy them on this response so that they can feel free to comment directly without my mediation. As I was not invited to this meeting between a subset of SSR2 members and SSAC then I suppose I have no role in drafting a followup letter from SSR2, unsolicited or otherwise.

I an writing to the entire SSR2 list because I continue to have concerns as to the way the SSR2 team is currently being chaired, and I feel it is appropriate to share my most recent concern about your actions here to the SSR2 mailing list so as to ensure it is part of the team’s archive of material.

Firstly, I note your mail and my earlier response was only shared with a subset of SSR2 members. I apologise to other SSR2 members in my lapse in not including them in my response, which I hope this message rectifies, as I have added both your note Eric and my earlier (as yet unanswered) request for clarification as to the context of this proposed action to this posting to the larger SSR2 mailing list

In this case Eric, my concern is that I have gained the impression that these actions step beyond reasonable norms of clear, open, transparent and inclusive leadership. Your note to to a subset of SSR2 members present here at ICANN inviting them to a session to draft a followup letter makes me very uneasy. I draw what I think is an obvious conclusion from your note that this proposed letter represents SSR2, yet refers to a meeting held on Wednesday with SSAC leadership where you only invited a subset of SSR2 members, and a meeting where you have not to date subsequently provided back to the entire SSR2 list any summary as to the matters discussed at the meeting. If you had anticipated that this proposed letter from SSR2 to have any weight and substance as representing SSR2, then I fail to understand how you could justify such an anticipation under these circumstances, particularly in your distinguished role as one of the co-chairs of this review. 

It is entirely possible I am mistaken in this matter and the context of “that letter to SSAC” does not in fact play any role in the carriage of SSR2 itself and this is merely a letter from a number of individuals, who are not in any way representing SSR2, yet have chosen to write formally to the SSAC. As to why these individuals feel the need to have such a letter placed on SSAC’s records of correspondence is not a question I can answer. Also, I would naturally expect that in such a limited context, such correspondence from these assorted individuals naturally could not make any undertakings or representations of SSR2 itself, as not all SSR2 members are even aware that such a restricted meeting took place yesterday, and some SSR2 members could well be unaware of the discussions that ensued and whether or not any undertakings in SSR2’s name were made by the individuals present there. 
 
I am personally sorry to raise this serious matter just as a rather difficult week draws to a conclusion, but I believe strongly that no rationale of expediency justifies any lapse of standards in offering to the entire SSR2 group careful and considered guidance within the principles of clear, open, transparent and inclusive leadership of SSR2, which I believe is appropriately expected of you as one of our co-chairs in this leadership role.

Geoff


> On 1 Nov 2017, at 5:54 pm, Geoff Huston <gih at apnic.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m sorry to be dense here Eric, but I’m in the dark as to “that letter”. This was not a topic of the 4pm discussion, so I assume that the discussion you are referring to here is a sub-group's meeting with SSAC’s Rod and Patrik earlier in the day. Is that assumption correct? Or are you referring to something else?
> 
> thanks,
> 
>   Geoff 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 1 Nov 2017, at 5:34 pm, Osterweil, Eric <eosterweil at verisign.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Let’s get together and work on that letter to SSAC, from our discussion today. I am available any time between 8 and our team’s meeting with the Board (at 1). As a straw man, I propose 10am. We can meet at the reg desk and find a room from there. 
>> 
>> Can you all please ack this time, or propose an alternative some time tonight?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 




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