[Ssr2-review] Fwd: SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi

Tue Oct 31 02:47:11 UTC 2017

I think that an overview comprised of our subteam structure and progress is
sufficient background. Beyond that, we need to engage in a discussion of
how we plan to go forward. I’ll point out that almost any ICANN effort I
have been part of has participants who don’t care enough to be very
involved. We need to focus on our critics by focusing on substance of their
concerns. Any attempt to explain why we have done certain things, or not
done them, will be pointless. To be trite, there is no point in trying to
unring a bell.

The core issue as I see it, and I know from posts here that others share
the view, is that we have gone beyond our remit and capabilities. Whether
true from our standpoint or not, we have heard about it from the Board and
then SSAC, but fundamentally have done nothing to say that we are
listening. The problems go both ways. We asked for clarifications when the
Board first raised concerns in Johannesburg but didn’t receive specifics
quntil the message that focused on Subteam 2.

We need to show that we are listening. Discuss the concerns about the ToR
directly. Be prepared to edit our tasks or be specific if we have concerns
about why we are being told that we have exceeded our remit. One example:
the letter about Subteam 2 shows an assumption the we plan to conduct an
audit. As a veteran of 27001 projects and instructor in other regimes, I
will say that we don’t have the time or professional capabilities to do
that. What we can is do is isolate items for further study by contracted
specialists, which is what I thought was the case when the groups prepared
the tasks. When discussing issues, we also should focus on ones that we can
do something about. A major SSAC concern is that processes for choosing RT2
members were not followed correctly.

One additional item to consider in any response, written or in a meeting,
is that we can’t separate entirely the Board and SSAC with respect to the
RT2. SSAC includes the Board Chair and probably the most active Board
liaison. Another Board member has been a semi-regular Observer on calls.
Some bleed through is inevitable, even if not expressed.

I hope that this message is useful in getting all parties heading in the
same direction quickly. It’s about time to wrap up in EDT. Naturally, I
will address any follow up in my morning.

Don

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:36 PM Osterweil, Eric via Ssr2-review <
ssr2-review at icann.org> wrote:

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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Boban Krsic <krsic at denic.de> wrote:
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> On 31. Oct 2017, at 00:27, Denise Michel <denisemichel at fb.com> wrote:
>
> Based on my conversations with some SSAC members they know next to nothing
> about the SSR2. While I agree the SSAC letter is a priority to discuss with
> them it’s clear they also need an overview of our work. What do you think
> of doing an abbreviated overview and spend the bulk of the time on the
> letter?
>
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
>   - Boban.
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> +1
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> Eric
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> Denise Michel
> Sent via phone
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> _____________________________
> From: ALAIN AINA <aalain at trstech.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:19 AM
> Subject: [Ssr2-review] Fwd: SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi
> To: SSR2 Review Team Email List <ssr2-review at icann.org>
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>
> Hi Co-chairs and SSR2 team,
>
> We have had 2 days of our outreach and community engagement. No  real
> inputs to our works received, Some questions about the new developments and
> the letters,  some questions about the SSR1 recommendations implementation
> gap analysis RFP, some generic questions about the SSR review schedules and
> the SSR review and ICANN strategic planning…
>
> Shouldn’t we review the method in light of the results ?
>
> Can we use the 30mn discussion with SSAC to solely discuss their concerns
>  and possible solutions?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> —Alain
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Jennifer Bryce <jennifer.bryce at icann.org>
> *Subject: **[Ssr2-review] SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi*
> *Date: *25 October 2017 at 12:22:17 GMT
> *To: *"ssr2-review at icann.org" <ssr2-review at icann.org>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here is the latest schedule of SSR2 sessions at ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi. You
> will have received calendar invites to all of the meetings from Yvette. For
> those traveling to Abu Dhabi, safe travels and see you there on Friday.
>
> *Note all times are GST. *
>
> *Friday 27 October *
>
>    - 09:00 – 17:30 | SSR2 Review Team Face-to-Face Meeting| Capital Suite
>    01 (not on public schedule as prior to ICANN60)
>
>
> *Saturday 28 October*
>
>    - 15:15 - 15:45 | At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) | Hall A, Sec B.
>    | http://sched.co/CbJ0
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbJ0&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=Xrw9NPXhaM89wV82EWzrl58DU0WtU7aGyY3cpPkn4QA&e=>
>    - 17:30 - 18:00 | Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) |
>    Capital Suite 05 | http://sched.co/CbFT
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbFT&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=1VUr8RreLJ10SkzeApdYUjst6ZRZLWFWGojGM_f2gpQ&e=>(invite
>    to follow)
>
>
> *Sunday 29 October *
>
>    - 11:30 - 12:00 | Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) | Hall
>    B, Sec. B/C | http://sched.co/CbId
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbId&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=6GuIsVTucUVGGY1t4nriXM5oLqwy1rKXESiBxh0sl90&e=>
>    - 13:30 – 15:00 | SSR2 Review Team Community Engagement Session|
>    Capital Suite 14 | http://sched.co/CbGX
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbGX&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=50mBdV0d7gBei64BVat81bsT-wH6Py7qkLZtDErPCy4&e=>
>    - 15:30 - 16:45 | Address Supporting Organization (ASO) | Capital
>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbFw
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbFw&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=GfbL9OtQC3IYQq2W522rnqPyd9WeEnszwAuM0MuD-P8&e=>
>
>
> *Tuesday 31 October *
>
>    - 08:30 - 08:55 | Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) | Hall A, Sec.
>    B/C | http://sched.co/CbKA
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbKA&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=s-bexWIVI-_QN5nE4fBAXzn1wFFDnc0SGaV8zJ5Fnr8&e=>
>    - 10:35 - 10:55 | Commercial Stakeholder Group (CSG) | Capital Suite
>    01 | http://sched.co/CbF0
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbF0&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=ShtxF0lTn1Vv-cwXwy9hfXlhvkmHZY6OB2YVM-jSu7o&e=>
>    - 11:30 - 12:00 | Security & Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) |
>    Capital Suite 19 | http://sched.co/CbGx
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbGx&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=pG1X8GJQSSZ3QVvzwxynhwLcKU2Q3nLQv2tvItBKpgU&e=>
>    - 14:00 - 14:30 | Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns (NPOC)| Capital
>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbG3
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbG3&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=uSKru3uEzEu-WTmM1Hn0c3liryZ_-uAvxkhbakAU3fs&e=>
>    - 16:25 - 16:55 | Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) | Capital
>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbG4
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbG4&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=I-LkJm5fl0760He8147AIH6SCf1B8SOUpkw_Gz7Ovcs&e=>
>
>
> *Thursday 2 November *
>
>    - 13:45 – 15:00 | SSR2 Review Team Meeting with Board Caucus Group|
>    Hall A, Sec. B/C | http://sched.co/CbKJ
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbKJ&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=IU1hy3IeULo3FSiFzUidP41iJEZ1qY81yvd2hfPDAhs&e=>
>
>
> *Friday 3 November *
>
>    - 09:00 – 17:30 | SSR2 Review Team Face-to-Face Meeting| Capital Suite
>    01 | http://sched.co/CbF7
>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbF7&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=KSkUt1nrsS4IYgPniwvwzabETbBiEotoGAbqIf9ztso&e=>
>
>
> --
> *Jennifer Bryce*
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> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
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