[Ssr2-review] DAAR etc.

[k claffy]

Denise, okydok.

Dear Staff, can this count as this question/request,
that we add to whatever is being logged?

in related news, i learned that drc will presesnt a 
DAAR update to SSAC's admin committee call this week,
i'll try to attend or get minutes from that call
and summarize what i learned.

k


On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:16:51PM +0000, Denise Michel wrote:
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 > I think your suggestion of a DAAR<https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar>  update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response.
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 > It???s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues.
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 > Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don???t recall anything since Abu Dhabi, however.
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 > (Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN???S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar groups??? historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance???s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to DNS abuse.  It???s not a position that several other ICANN groups share.
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 > Denise Michel
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 > ???On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces at icann.org on behalf of kc at caida.org> wrote:
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 >     all,
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 >     i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year
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 >     and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN
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 >     on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i
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 >     wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all.
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 >     or is there an updated web page i should be reading?
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 >     e.g., there is a line from steve that says:
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 >                 The current status as far as I know is that, again, I
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 >                 think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start
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 >                 determining what the community wants to see out of it
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 >     [ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was?  ]
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 >                 what we want to do is we want to make it a better place
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 >                 out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well,
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 >                 this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because
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 >                 all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily
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 >                 make them the bad actor.
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 >                 ...
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 >                 Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to
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 >                 get back to the various departments and see.
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 >     here is the report from that meeting:
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 >     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1QsvBp4GNW-5FTILEos29YQxTb4ZH7qcQFAh-5F4e0XgxDSg_edit&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=KHk9SJjmnkah-TtRD8vqyJIXDchUmbv_zDe0eghi2Wc&e=
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 >     which seems to have more questions than answers in it.
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 >     i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup
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 >     to re-start?
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 >     also i wonder if anyone is following:
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 >     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_contractual-2Dcompliance-2Daddressing-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dsystem-2Ddns-2Dinfrastructure-2Dabuse&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=80EXJ7o6j3dd6bvkI5Pe-1fedleMDACvFKHQvOkz2cM&e=
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 >     and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom.
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 >     not surprising, but, any thoughts?  this seems like
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 >     something we should be considering..
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 >     k
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