[Ssr2-review] DAAR etc.

Thu Nov 29 14:44:12 UTC 2018

Hi KC,

Yes. We will log your request in the system and proceed to look into feasible times for this presentation with the relevant SMEs. 

Kind regards,

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Negar

From: Ssr2-review <ssr2-review-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of k claffy <kc at caida.org>
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:52 PM
To: "ssr2-review at icann.org" <ssr2-review at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] DAAR etc.

Denise, okydok.

Dear Staff, can this count as this question/request,

that we add to whatever is being logged?

in related news, i learned that drc will presesnt a 

DAAR update to SSAC's admin committee call this week,

i'll try to attend or get minutes from that call

and summarize what i learned.

k

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 09:16:51PM +0000, Denise Michel wrote:

> Hi, KC.

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> I think your suggestion of a DAAR<https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar>  update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response.

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> It???s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues.

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> Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don???t recall anything since Abu Dhabi, however.

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> (Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN???S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar groups??? historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance???s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to DNS abuse.  It???s not a position that several other ICANN groups share.

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> Best,

> Denise

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> Denise Michel

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> Director, Domain Name System Strategy & Management

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> Facebook, Inc.

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> denisemichel at fb.com

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> ???On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces at icann.org on behalf of kc at caida.org> wrote:

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>     all,

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>     i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year

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>     and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN

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>     on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i

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>     wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all.

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>     or is there an updated web page i should be reading?

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>     e.g., there is a line from steve that says:

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>                 The current status as far as I know is that, again, I

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>                 think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start

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>                 determining what the community wants to see out of it

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>     [ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was?  ]

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>     and

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>                 what we want to do is we want to make it a better place

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>                 out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well,

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>                 this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because

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>                 all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily

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>                 make them the bad actor.

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>                 ...

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>                 Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to

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>                 get back to the various departments and see.

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>     here is the report from that meeting:

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>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1QsvBp4GNW-5FTILEos29YQxTb4ZH7qcQFAh-5F4e0XgxDSg_edit&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=KHk9SJjmnkah-TtRD8vqyJIXDchUmbv_zDe0eghi2Wc&e=

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>     which seems to have more questions than answers in it.

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>     i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup

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>     to re-start?

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>     also i wonder if anyone is following:

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>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_contractual-2Dcompliance-2Daddressing-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dsystem-2Ddns-2Dinfrastructure-2Dabuse&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=80EXJ7o6j3dd6bvkI5Pe-1fedleMDACvFKHQvOkz2cM&e=

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>     and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom.

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>     not surprising, but, any thoughts?  this seems like

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>     something we should be considering..

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>     k

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