[Ssr2-review] Call summary: SSR2 Plenary - 29 July 2020

k claffy kc at caida.org
Sun Aug 23 01:53:42 UTC 2020


Trying to catch up, I see on this call (that i missed)
that Recommendation #29 was reviewed and approved.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MJrPzXTngRCrdXLuiyPf7SeZsuPvwjjFGFoooQsT62U/edit#
	(p68). The team generally agreed to the text, with a minor change
	to 29.4, which was made on the call and is reflected in the
	document.

when i look at the document, i see problems:

first, why is it called "Privacy and SSR Measurements"
There is no measurement referred to in this recommendation.
I'm confused. 

(1) 29.1: Why is DOH stuck into the same recommendation as 
access to registration data, which has been a topic of
interminable debate for decades?  Access to registration 
data merits its own recommendation, given that we've now
spent 2 years on an "EPDP" to try to make progress on
this topic.

(2) Why is this recommendation not even referring to the
EPDP, which has been going on for two years and its final
report came out 2 days after this meeting, and SSAC has
already published a quite adversarial comment on the EPDP
draft report that came out back in the spring?
( SSAC is about to publish a similar comment on the final
report, but we should at least have considered the SSAC
comment on the draft report..)

I don't see how this recommendation can completely ignore
the EPDP work.

(3) Why is this recommendation using the term WHOIS, which
the community is replacing with RDAP? 

(4) 29.3.2 [god help us if we end up with sub-sub-recommendation
numbering!] basically says "ICANN should not break privacy law".
Explain to me why this is needed?  I claim ICANN is already 
aware they should not break the law, and already has lawyers
monitoring this area.

(5) 29.3.3:  develop a policy for *who* to protect PII?
ICANN is not in charge of how registrars in Germany protect
their PII.  I don't understand this subrecommendation, what
known problem it's aimed at solving, and how SSR3 will 
know it's been implemented.  

(6) 29.3.4:  We want ICANN to audit registrars around the world?
Like in China, to make sure that Chinese registrars are following
Chinese registrar law?  I don't see this happening.   I think
we have to be realistic here.  What problem are we trying 
to solve, and how will SSR3 know that progress has occurred?

(7) 29.4:  What's a DPO? it's not yet been mentioned in this
document.  "provide guidance to managers and stakeholders" --
which managers and stakeholders?  whkich "relevant technical
developments".  I have no idea what problem this subrecommendation
is trying to solve.

there also seem to be entire paragraphs in the 'Rationale and
Finding' for this recommendation that have nothing to do with
privacy, but are focused rather on accuracy of WHOIS information.
the text uses WHOIS and RDAP in different places without 
explaining why.  Are we supposed to be reviewing recommendation
text but not the accompanying text on Rationale and Findings?

struggling,
k



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