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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Kaveh: Please see the responses and clarifications posted to this list.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">You are incorrect that “any gathering of SSR2 team members, where the topic of discussion is SSR2 matters should be considered as a SSR2 meeting.” Just as any SSAC members or any Board members talking
about their respective work is not considered an SSAC or Board meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Denise <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Denise Michel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Domain Name System Strategy & Management<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Facebook, Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">denisemichel@fb.com <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">On 11/2/17, 11:33 AM, "Kaveh Ranjbar" <kaveh.ranjbar@board.icann.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Dear SSR2 Review Team:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> I would like to echo what Geoff said and put my complaints on the record about being excluded from both the meeting with SSAC yesterday and this ad-hoc meeting with basically zero prior notice time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> I found out about SSAC meeting much later after the meeting happened, by word of mouth. This morning I had to be in a meeting and make a short presentation and the notice (which I saw only 15 minutes after it was posted, since it
was sent over e-mail) did not leave any room for me to make arrangements and find a replacement presenter.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> I also have to state that I do not agree with urgency as a reason for this style of communication and leadership. I expect SSR2 RT leadership to promote a calm approach, to stand by important principals of openness, transparency
and inclusiveness and in-case additional time is needed for proper call of a team meeting, liaise with involved parties (in this case SO/AC Leadership and Board) to explain time constraints and get additional time to organise, instead of setting these type
of ad-hoc meetings and excluding members, including the ones who have to join remotely.
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Needless to say, any gathering of SSR2 team members, where the topic of discussion is SSR2 matters should be considered as a SSR2 meeting and should follow inclusiveness rules, expected for any meeting of the review team.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> All the best,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> Kaveh.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> > On 2 Nov 2017, at 10:41, Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> > I am sorry to sound like a broken record Denise, but calling a SSR2 meeting with ZERO notice is yet another instance of my issues with this leadership style. I would like to request some level of due notice and efforts for inclusion
of all team members on the part of leadership, as without it I believe that you cannot subsequently represent any outcome as being representative in any form or fashion of the SSR2 team.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> > As I have already noted here, my conversations with the SSAC chairs last night indicated that there was no expectation of any subsequent communication from SSR2 so I am confused that there are different reports of outcomes from
presumably the same meeting. Perhaps this is illustrative of the perils of undertaking such informal “get togethers” as becoming a source of further dysfunctionality rather than resolving them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> > Geoff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> On 2 Nov 2017, at 10:16 am, Denise Michel <denisemichel@fb.com> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> To work on info request for some SSAC members<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Denise Michel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Sent via phone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Ssr2-review mailing list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> >> Ssr2-review@icann.org<o:p></o:p></p>
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