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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Hi, KC. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I think your suggestion of a
<a href="https://www.icann.org/octo-ssr/daar">DAAR</a> update is a good one, and suggest you send staff a question on the status and expected posting date. This can be logged in SSR2 questions and we can track the response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s relevant to issues involving both SSR1 implementation and internal and external SSR2 issues.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Through the Business Constituency, I have been following DAAR and related reports from their inception, and the BC has received several "it's on its way" updates on DAAR over the years. I don’t recall anything
since Abu Dhabi, however. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">(Separate from DAAR) On your question about the registry constituency comments on ICANN’S implementation of the CCCT Review abuse-related recommendation, they are in-line with both the registry and registrar
groups’ historic position of minimizing ICANN/ICANN Compliance’s ability to get data from registrars and registries relating to<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> </span>DNS<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> abuse. It’s not a position
that several other ICANN groups share.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#333333;background:white">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:#333333;background:white">Denise</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Denise Michel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Director, Domain Name System Strategy & Management<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Facebook, Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">denisemichel@fb.com <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">On 11/22/18, 9:24 AM, "Ssr2-review on behalf of k claffy" <ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org on behalf of kc@caida.org> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> i've been reviewing transcripts from meetings last year<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> and wonder if it's possible to get an update from ICANN<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> on the DAAR system? more than a year has gone by and i<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> wonder if the thinking/use/analysis/impact has evolved at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> or is there an updated web page i should be reading?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> e.g., there is a line from steve that says:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> The current status as far as I know is that, again, I<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> think were having a session in Abu Dhabi to start<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> determining what the community wants to see out of it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> [ do we know what the outcome of that conversation was? ]<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> and<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> what we want to do is we want to make it a better place<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> out there for the consumers, not necessarily say, Well,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> this registrar or registry is a bad actor, and because<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> all these other people are bad, that doesnt necessarily<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> make them the bad actor.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> ...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> Whether or not theres going to be a plan, Id have to<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> get back to the various departments and see.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> here is the report from that meeting:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_document_d_1QsvBp4GNW-5FTILEos29YQxTb4ZH7qcQFAh-5F4e0XgxDSg_edit&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=KHk9SJjmnkah-TtRD8vqyJIXDchUmbv_zDe0eghi2Wc&e=<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> which seems to have more questions than answers in it.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> i wonder if this is a reasonable place for this subgroup<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> to re-start?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> also i wonder if anyone is following:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_contractual-2Dcompliance-2Daddressing-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dsystem-2Ddns-2Dinfrastructure-2Dabuse&d=DwICAg&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=Ah8OYQ17eiieX_HA0fwbzmGMTw6CM0Xu_fAwLDpCTrI&s=80EXJ7o6j3dd6bvkI5Pe-1fedleMDACvFKHQvOkz2cM&e=<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> and in particular RySG's comment on it at the bottom.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> not surprising, but, any thoughts? this seems like<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> something we should be considering..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> k <o:p></o:p></p>
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