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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=ZH-CN link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Although I won’t be able to go to San Francisco, I would like to join the session remotely.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tech-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:tech-whois-bounces@icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eugen Staicut<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> Steve Sheng; tech-whois@icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tech-whois] A follow up session in San Francisco?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I would be interested to attend to presentations about IRIS and RWS.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Eugenie Staicut</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Dear all,</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> We had a successful workshop in Cartagena last year. Thinking</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> ahead for the San Francisco meeting, we would like to ask if there</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> would be any interest in scheduling a follow up session in San</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Francisco. Particularly we thought about inviting IRIS and RWS</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> authors and implementers to come and give presentations about their</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> experience, and then engage a discussion on the technical evolution</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> of WHOIS.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> If there is sufficient interest, we can request a slot in the San</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Francisco meeting and invite speakers to come.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Warm regards,</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> --</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Steve Sheng</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Senior Technical Analyst</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> ICANN</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Internet Corporation for</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Assigned Names and Numbers</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> P: +1 (310) 578 8607</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> C: +1 (310) 463 8430</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> www.icann.org</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> On 1/7/11 9:27 AM, "Steve Sheng" <steve.sheng@icann.org> wrote:</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> FYI. Comments from Hugo Salgado regarding the Technical Evolution of</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> the Whois Service document. We welcome any additional comments.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Any thoughts / responses to Hugo's comment?</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Warm regards,</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Steve</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> ------ Forwarded Message</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> From: Hugo Salgado <hsalgado@nic.cl></span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 05:16:46 -0800</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> To: Francisco Arias <francisco.arias@icann.org></span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Subject: Comments on Technical Evolution of the Whois Service</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Dear Francisco.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> I'd like to comment the "Technical Evolution of the Whois Service</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Preliminary Draft, 15 November 2010" document that you presented</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> in 39th ICANN's meeting, that I obtained through this link:</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> <http://cartagena39.icann.org/meetings/cartagena2010/presentation-te</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> ch-evolu</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> tion-whois-service-15nov10-en.pdf></span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> 1. I think there's a fourth point in the 3 deficiencies of the</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> WHOIS</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> protocol that are enumerated in page 3, under "Extending the</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> existing</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> WHOIS protocol:" subtitle. That's the "Referrals" item. Even when</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> is</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> mentioned in the RWhois description and as a implicit benefit of</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> the</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> HTTP protocol, I believe is of great importance and should be one</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> of</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> the key requirement of an improved whois, whatever solution will</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> be.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> 2. IMHO there's a chance of another option for improving whois:</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> create a</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> new "application-transport" layer in IRIS (such as BEEP and LWZ)</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> that</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> uses HTTP. In that way you benefit from the data standarization</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> of</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> IRIS (request/response format, schemas, entities) and the work</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> of</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> the IETF, and you gain all the benefits of using RWS with the</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> existing web infrastructure and expertise. We can ask for</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> guidance</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> of the IRIS authors and write a draft, and maybe reopen the</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> CRISP</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> WG in the IETF.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> My 2 cents.</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Saludos y un feliz año 2011!</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> --</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> Hugo Salgado</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> NIC Chile - .CL</span><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>> </span><span lang=EN><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>