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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jeff,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It is true that if you wanted information on your competitors and brand protection strategy that you could currently go to Thompson or similar and order a search.
The thing is, that search would cost you many thousands of dollars for EACH MARK. I do not know if it is even possible from a practical perspective to do a rally effective search of all filings for a particular company in every jurisdiction because it is
likely that such a company would have numerous affiliates and subsidiary companies doing the filing in some countries. Even assuming you could effectively do such a search, it might cost tens or hundreds of thousands for EACH COMPETITOR. The threat of decentralizing
data storage in the TMCH or otherwise not taking the proper security measures is that companies could somehow access this information for free or negligible cost.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And as far as a code of conduct, that would be fine if there were only good actors involved, but clearly this is not the case, and I don’t think many brand
owners are willing to bet everything on the possibility that everyone will be a good actor…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org [mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Neuman, Jeff<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeff Eckhaus; mike@rodenbaugh.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> tmch-iag@icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">From a registry perspective, if we decide to centralize all of the data in one place, as is being advocated, we run a substantial risk of affecting the real
time registration process and we create a single point of failure. If that Clearinghouse were to ever go down (or even take a scheduled maintenance), then each registry that is relying on the Clearinghouse for real time IP Claims or real time Sunrise will
also go down. Registrations may be tied up in queues or not accepted at all. Customer support inquiries to both the registries and registrars will be a nightmare to say the least. Who will compensate the registries and registrars for lost revenue as a result?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Question to the IP Owners: If I really wanted information on my competitors and the brand protection strategy, cant I just go to a Thomson and Thomson or any
trademark watch service and order a search on my competitors. In other words, I believe now I am free to go to one of these search firms and demand search results on any third party to find out their brand protection strategy. So, as Microsoft, couldn’t
I order a service from Thomson and Thomson or CSC to search all of the filings of Google and alert me when new registrations come in? How would this be different?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And if there is still a concern, couldn’t we create a code of conduct which forbids the disclosure of such data or separates the duties out whereby anyone working
on the registry cannot share that information with others even within their own corporation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are tradeoffs here that need to be considered.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]">
[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Eckhaus<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The question that I have here is do the IP lawyers here who agree with Brian's original comments believe that the full service can be completed by registries and registrars with limited data? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Or are you willing to accept a possible lower standard to protect the full portfolio of marks? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just to be clear I am not advocating one way or another here, just want to know if there are trade offs being made here and if there are trade offs are people willing to accept them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:32 PM, "<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Agreed. The Clearinghouse, or any substantial part of it, should only be mirrored in a finite number of places, solely for purposes of bandwidth and redundancy.
Queries can be made against any of the mirrored databases in real time, as needed. Is someone making an argument for more than this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith Barritt<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Trachtenberg, Marc H.'; Winterfeldt, Brian; <a href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">
tmch-iag@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">I also concur with Brian’s well-articulated reasoning.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]">
[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Trachtenberg, Marc H.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Winterfeldt, Brian; <a href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I agree fully with Brian’s comments.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]">
[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Winterfeldt, Brian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Trademark Clearinghouse IAG,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In response to recent comments on the T1 Issue, I continue to have reservations against having the Trademark Clearinghouse supply of all of the listed trademarks and their full
information to registries and registrars in bulk. While we fully acknowledge that trademark claims notices will provide information about a specific mark and so will become somewhat public, the receiver of this information (here, the prospective domain name
registrant) will be limited, as will the information provided (i.e., not all listed marks). Moreover, most .BRAND registries will not likely have many third-party claims notices to send. Accordingly, there again is no need for registries and registrars to
receive trademark owners’ entire trademark portfolios collected and compiled in one place.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To reiterate, intellectual property owners are concerned that their competitor registries and registrars will obtain their entire trademark portfolios with the ability to quickly and easily sift through this information to easily discern
the holder’s brand protection strategy for its marks in not only a comprehensive way, but on a more specific jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction and even a mark-by-mark basis. This could potentially jeopardize a trademark holder’s entire portfolio. We understand
that the registries believe that they can implement tracking metrics such as those currently in use with WHOIS lookup to determine if registrants are attempting to mine Clearinghouse data to gain a competitive advantage, but we still feel the brand protection
risks far outweigh any gains in adopting such a measure. Without a demonstrable need for registries and registrars to obtain all of this information, I again recommend that full trademark information should remain at the Clearinghouse, with information provided
on a limited, need-to-know basis, namely, full trademark information about the mark at issue to potential domain name registrants who attempt to register an exact match, and only a yes or no answer to a registrar or registry in response to an exact match query.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p>
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