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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT
color=#0000ff>Mike,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT color=#0000ff>The
TMCH for Trademark Claims could use DNS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT color=#0000ff>The
TMCH for Sunrise could use EPP. (without mirroring)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT color=#0000ff>Tom
Barrett</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=359044517-25012012><FONT
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org
[mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>icann@rodenbaugh.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:51
AM<BR><B>To:</B> tmch-iag@icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tmch-iag] FW: Trademark
Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">If the database is mirrored,
then there can be no single point of failure. Isn’t this how the DNS
works?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Mike Rodenbaugh<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>RODENBAUGH LAW<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Neuman, Jeff
[mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012
8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Trachtenberg, Marc H.; Adams, Michael D.; Jeff Eckhaus;
mike@rodenbaugh.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> tmch-iag@icann.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Marc,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">But as a registry, I can control
that single point of failure. I don’t necessarily have to rely on a third
party. Or if I do outsource my registry function, I have a contract
directly with them and I can do the diligence on them to make sure they have the
appropriate facilities to handle and the appropriate contractual protections in
place. I have no control over the third party clearinghouse. I, as a
registry, was not able to do the diligence on them. I have no contract
directly with them giving me the guarantees I would make sure I get with an
outsourced provider.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">You also have to look at the
macro level. If the Clearinghouse goes down, it is not just the one
registry that goes down…..all of them do (that are going through Sunrise or IP
Claims). Therefore, you are magnifying the issue
tremendously.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The launch phase of the TLD (of
which Sunrise, IP Claims, etc. are but just one piece) is one of the most
critical time periods in the lifecycle of a registry. It is a huge focus
of months worth of marketing, PR, channel programs, etc. For
non-brand TLDs, if you go down during your launch phase, there may be no
recovery. Even if not the registry’s fault (but a third party’s fault),
the market will not care nor will it be very forgiving.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">So again, understand the
concerns expressed by Brian and the IP Attorneys and believe they are very
legitimate and need to be addressed. But the concept of having a single
point of failure and the possible ramifications of such a failure cause by a
party to which the registries have no control over (contractual or otherwise) is
not something that should be taken lightly. I know there are some IP
Attorneys in this group that do represent such non-brand registries.
Please take that into consideration.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: #1f497d"><BR>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Neuman,
Jeff; Adams, Michael D.; Jeff Eckhaus; <A
href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Jeff,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">As you point out, there a single
point of failure inherent in every TLD – the registry. If strategies are
being created to ensure that the registries don’t go down, can’t we just apply
the same strategies to the TMCH? How is this any different?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Best
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Neuman, Jeff<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012
10:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Adams, Michael D.; Jeff Eckhaus; <A
href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Michael,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Your perspective is one of an
intellectual Property owner and I completely respect that. But to be fair,
if registries have to rely on the Clearinghouse to display all notices for IP
Claims and to certify to the Registries that the notice was displayed and the
registrant only proceeded after being shown the IP Claims notice, then that too
creates the one single point of failure. If the registries/registrars do
not have the information, then they cannot display the claims notices. All
of that may be fine, but I want to know what assurances there will be that the
Clearinghouse will literally never go down and what repercussions there will be
if the Clearinghouse does go down.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">There has been so much emphasis
in the new gTLD process about registries never going down. Emergency
providers being established to ensure the registrant is not affected.
Countless pages of technical documentation being required to ensure there is
never a single point of failure. Yet now, we are saying we are fine with
that because of fear that one brand will learn another brand’s protection
strategy. Again, this may be ok, and I am not judging
that.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">But lets call it what it is….the
creation of a single point of failure. If we are fine with that, let’s
move on and figure out how we can ensure that that single point of failure will
never go down.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 6pt; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Jeffrey J. Neuman</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #3366ff; FONT-SIZE: 9pt"> <BR></SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #068658; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Adams, Michael D. <A
href="mailto:[mailto:MAdams2@mayerbrown.com]">[mailto:MAdams2@mayerbrown.com]</A>
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Neuman,
Jeff; Jeff Eckhaus; <A
href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">From my perspective, all that is
required for registries is that they have the most basic of information, namely,
the existence of a validated right and the validated right’s owner. What
will not be needed by registries is an in-depth detailed set of information
regarding all brands, classes claimed, countries of registration etc.
Unless my understanding is mistaken, it does not seem to me that registries have
a need for the information they are advocating to receive. Please let me
know if I am missing something. Thanks. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Neuman, Jeff<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012
7:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Jeff Eckhaus; <A
href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">From a registry perspective, if
we decide to centralize all of the data in one place, as is being advocated, we
run a substantial risk of affecting the real time registration process and we
create a single point of failure. If that Clearinghouse were to ever go
down (or even take a scheduled maintenance), then each registry that is relying
on the Clearinghouse for real time IP Claims or real time Sunrise will also go
down. Registrations may be tied up in queues or not accepted at all.
Customer support inquiries to both the registries and registrars will be a
nightmare to say the least. Who will compensate the registries and
registrars for lost revenue as a result? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Question to the IP Owners:
If I really wanted information on my competitors and the brand protection
strategy, cant I just go to a Thomson and Thomson or any trademark watch service
and order a search on my competitors. In other words, I believe now I am
free to go to one of these search firms and demand search results on any third
party to find out their brand protection strategy. So, as Microsoft,
couldn’t I order a service from Thomson and Thomson or CSC to search all of the
filings of Google and alert me when new registrations come in? How would
this be different? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">And if there is still a concern,
couldn’t we create a code of conduct which forbids the disclosure of such data
or separates the duties out whereby anyone working on the registry cannot share
that information with others even within their own
corporation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">There are tradeoffs here that
need to be considered.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 6pt; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Jeffrey J. Neuman</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org">tmch-iag-bounces@icann.org</A> [<A
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Jeff Eckhaus<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 25, 2012
1:40 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:mike@rodenbaugh.com">mike@rodenbaugh.com</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>The question that I have here is do the IP lawyers here who
agree with Brian's original comments believe that the full service can be
completed by registries and registrars with limited data? <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Or are you willing to accept a possible lower standard to
protect the full portfolio of marks? <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Just to be clear I am not advocating one way or another here,
just want to know if there are trade offs being made here and if there are trade
offs are people willing to accept them.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Jeff<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><BR>On Jan 24, 2012, at 10:32 PM,
"<A href="mailto:icann@rodenbaugh.com">icann@rodenbaugh.com</A>" <<A
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Agreed. The Clearinghouse,
or any substantial part of it, should only be mirrored in a finite number of
places, solely for purposes of bandwidth and redundancy. Queries can be
made against any of the mirrored databases in real time, as needed. Is
someone making an argument for more than this?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Mike
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[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Trachtenberg, Marc H.<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 24,
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[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I agree fully with Brian’s
comments.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Best
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Winterfeldt, Brian<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 24, 2012
2:22 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:tmch-iag@icann.org">tmch-iag@icann.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Tmch-iag] Trademark Clearinghouse IAG - Issue T1</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Dear Trademark Clearinghouse IAG,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto"
class=MsoNormal>In response to recent comments on the T1 Issue, I continue to
have reservations against having the Trademark Clearinghouse supply of all of
the listed trademarks and their full information to registries and registrars in
bulk. While we fully acknowledge that trademark claims notices will
provide information about a specific mark and so will become somewhat public,
the receiver of this information (here, the prospective domain name registrant)
will be limited, as will the information provided (i.e., not all listed marks).
Moreover, most .BRAND registries will not likely have many third-party
claims notices to send. Accordingly, there again is no need for registries
and registrars to receive trademark owners’ entire trademark portfolios
collected and compiled in one place.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>To reiterate, intellectual property owners are concerned that
their competitor registries and registrars will obtain their entire trademark
portfolios with the ability to quickly and easily sift through this information
to easily discern the holder’s brand protection strategy for its marks in not
only a comprehensive way, but on a more specific jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction
and even a mark-by-mark basis. This could potentially jeopardize a
trademark holder’s entire portfolio. We understand that the registries
believe that they can implement tracking metrics such as those currently in use
with WHOIS lookup to determine if registrants are attempting to mine
Clearinghouse data to gain a competitive advantage, but we still feel the brand
protection risks far outweigh any gains in adopting such a measure.
Without a demonstrable need for registries and registrars to obtain all of
this information, I again recommend that full trademark information should
remain at the Clearinghouse, with information provided on a limited,
need-to-know basis, namely, full trademark information about the mark at issue
to potential domain name registrants who attempt to register an exact match, and
only a yes or no answer to a registrar or registry in response to an exact match
query.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Brian<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P>
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