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    Thanks Judith. You know, in these matters there is often some hype
    that makes it bigger than what it actually is, so I'd rather receive
    good, quality advice on this, rather than read the hyperbolic
    debates on the Internet.<br>
    Kindest regards,<br>
    <br>
    Olivier<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/07/2019 20:26, Judith Hellerstein
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>HI Olivier,</p>
      <p>OK will write a note to the Tech team and ask them to do
        exactly that.  People are just coming back from Vacations so it
        is a bit slow.  I know I just got last night</p>
      <p>Best,</p>
      <p>Judith<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/2019 7:22 PM, Olivier MJ
        Crépin-Leblond wrote:<br>
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        Hello all,<br>
        <br>
        discussions are heating up on the topic of Zoom both in NCSG
        mailing list, and on the EURALO discuss mailing list. Isn't this
        issue more urgent than waiting for a future TTF call, the date
        of which is, at present, not even set?<br>
        At least a call from the TTF to ICANN Tech Team to write a Blog
        of what their risk assessment is, with regards to this
        conferencing technology? In the meantime, conversations about
        this are springing up on several other mailing lists...<br>
        Kindest regards,<br>
        <br>
        Olivier<br>
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                <td>AW: [EURO-Discuss] Zoom Structural Vulnerability
                  Discovered</td>
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                <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date:
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                <td>Wed, 10 Jul 2019 14:12:57 +0000</td>
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                <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From:
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                <td>Mühlberg, Annette <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:annette.muehlberg@verdi.de"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><annette.muehlberg@verdi.de></a></td>
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                <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To:
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                <td>Jean-Jacques Subrenat <a
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:jjs@dyalog.net" moz-do-not-send="true"><jjs@dyalog.net></a>,
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu></a>,
                  Paul Rosenzweig <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com></a>,
                  EURALO LIST <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a>,
                  Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <a
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a>,
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                    moz-do-not-send="true"><maureen.hilyard@gmail.com></a></td>
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                lang="EN-US">Dear All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">+1 for JJS: </span><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                lang="EN-US">set up a specifications sheet for a
                desirable conferencing tool, based on needs expressed by
                the multi-stakeholder community, and publish that as a
                tender. Offers received could then be reviewed not only
                by Staff, but in consultation with ACs and SOs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Such needs include data privacy, technical
                stability and preferably open standards.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
                lang="EN-US">Annette<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Annette
                    Mühlberg <o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                    EURO-Discuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><euro-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a>
                    <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Jean-Jacques Subrenat<br>
                    <b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2019 15:22<br>
                    <b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                      href="mailto:ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu</a>;
                    Paul Rosenzweig <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com></a>;
                    EURALO LIST <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><euro-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org></a>;
                    Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <a
                      class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                      href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" moz-do-not-send="true"><ocl@gih.com></a>;
                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                      href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a><br>
                    <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [EURO-Discuss] Zoom Structural
                    Vulnerability Discovered<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">First,
                  a remark: for Adobe, Zoom or other tool providers,
                  ICANN may not be the single largest client, but it is
                  certainly a significant one owing to its nature
                  (quasi-regulatory, multi-stakeholder, some parts
                  geared to non-commercial users).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Then,
                  a recommendation to Chairs of ACs and SOs: ICANN Board
                  and CEO could be requested to set up a specifications
                  sheet for a desirable conferencing tool, based on
                  needs expressed by the multi-stakeholder community,
                  and publish that as a tender. Offers received could
                  then be reviewed not only by Staff, but in
                  consultation with ACs and SOs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">This
                  would get us closer to what we, collectively, consider
                  as the appropriate tool for the numerous conference
                  calls held throughout ICANN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                  style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Jean-Jacques
                  Subrenat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
            <p class="airmailon"><span
                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Le
                10 juillet 2019 à 14:46:20, Paul Rosenzweig (<a
                  href="mailto:paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">paul.rosenzweig@redbranchconsulting.com</a>)
                a écrit:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US">This is assuredly right.  The
                        change from Adobe to Zoom may, or may not, have
                        been right for ICANN and for this group for any
                        number of reasons ranging from cost, to
                        security, to scalability and utility.  But let’s
                        not romanticize Adobe.  They are not a terribly
                        secure platform generically.  As James said, the
                        Zoom response is poor – but we can’t hang that
                        around the neck of ICANN org.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              style="color:#0563C1">www.redbranchconsulting.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US">My PGP Key: <a
href="https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684"
                            moz-do-not-send="true"> <span
                              style="color:#0563C1">https://keys.mailvelope.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x9A830097CA066684</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <div>
                      <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                        1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                            style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                            lang="EN-US"> NCSG-Discuss <<a
                              href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Gannon<br>
                            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:52
                            AM<br>
                            <b>To:</b> <a
                              href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                              moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
                            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Zoom Structural
                            Vulnerability Discovered<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US">Just want to call out that Adobe
                        has likely the worst reputation in the entire
                        tech industry when it comes to security, I
                        really would not hold them out as either prompt
                        or without serious issues (I believe they still
                        hold the record for number of CVSS 9+ vulns).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US">Zooms response is poor I agree, but
                        on a data driven comparison it is a far more
                        secure platform.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                      1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"
                            lang="EN-US">From: </span></b><span
                          style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"
                          lang="EN-US">NCSG-Discuss <<a
                            href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
                          on behalf of Ayden Férdeline <<a
                            href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br>
                          <b>Reply-To: </b>Ayden Férdeline <<a
                            href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br>
                          <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 9 July 2019 at 14:13<br>
                          <b>To: </b>"<a
                            href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>"
                          <<a
                            href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
                          <b>Subject: </b>Re: Zoom Structural
                          Vulnerability Discovered</span><span
                          style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US">That is true, but note that this
                          security researcher notified Zoom of the
                          exploit and they were in no rush to repair it.
                          Look at the timeline in the Medium post. They
                          only sought to fix it after the vulnerability
                          drew media attention. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US">Adobe Connect was not perfect but
                          it met our needs and the occasional security
                          issues that arose were promptly fixed by Adobe
                          and never as serious as this one!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div id="protonmail_mobile_signature_block">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                            lang="EN-US">Best wishes, Ayden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                        lang="EN-US">On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 18:07, Adeel
                        Sadiq <<a
                          href="mailto:11beeasadiq@seecs.edu.pk"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">11beeasadiq@seecs.edu.pk</a>>
                        wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                    <blockquote
                      style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                            lang="EN-US">Speaking from a
                            technical perspective, no software is
                            perfect or bug-free. Its only a matter of
                            time a loophole is found and exploited and
                            eventually patched up. If you think Adobe
                            Connect or ezTalks were/are free of these
                            architectural issues, think again! That's
                            the way we technical community do things. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">Adeel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">Pakistan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                          lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:37
                              AM Ayden Férdeline <<a
                                href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
                              wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
                          #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                lang="EN-US">Unfortunately, uninstalling
                                the application does not rectify the
                                situation, due to poor architecture
                                (acknowledged by Zoom on their blog
                                today). They are working on a fix, now
                                that public scrutiny demands one. So
                                disappointing that ICANN has put us in
                                this terrible situation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div
                            id="gmail-m_4892314735287444777protonmail_mobile_signature_block">
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US">Ayden<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                              lang="EN-US">On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 16:15,
                              Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO
                              <<a href="mailto:va@BLADEBRAINS.COM"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">va@BLADEBRAINS.COM</a>>
                              wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                          <blockquote
                            style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                lang="EN-US">Thanks for this. Till the
                                next Update, I have removed the Zoom For
                                Mac Client with immediate effect.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US">Vaibhav Aggarwal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US">New Delhi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US"><a
                                    href="http://VaibhavAggarwal.com"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">VaibhavAggarwal.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                  lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                    lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                <blockquote
                                  style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                        lang="EN-US">On Jul 10, 2019, at
                                        12:30 AM, Michael Karanicolas
                                        <<a
                                          href="mailto:mkaranicolas@GMAIL.COM"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">mkaranicolas@GMAIL.COM</a>>
                                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                      lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                          lang="EN-US">Hey - remember
                                          when ICANN switched everyone
                                          from Adobe over to Zoom as a
                                          way of enhancing information
                                          security and data privacy? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                            lang="EN-US">"A
                                            vulnerability in the Mac
                                            Zoom Client allows any
                                            malicious website to enable
                                            your camera without your
                                            permission... This
                                            vulnerability allows any
                                            website to forcibly join a
                                            user to a Zoom call, with
                                            their video camera
                                            activated, without the
                                            user's permission. On top of
                                            this, this vulnerability
                                            would have allowed any
                                            webpage to DOS (Denial of
                                            Service) a Mac by repeatedly
                                            joining a user to an invalid
                                            call. Additionally, if
                                            you’ve ever installed the
                                            Zoom client and then
                                            uninstalled it, you still
                                            have a localhost web server
                                            on your machine that will
                                            happily re-install the Zoom
                                            client for you, without
                                            requiring any user
                                            interaction on your behalf
                                            besides visiting a webpage.
                                            This re-install ‘feature’
                                            continues to work to this
                                            day."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                            lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"
                                            lang="EN-US">Read more
                                            here: <a
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