<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Olivier,<div><br></div><div>OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>Best.</div><div>Judith<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<span style="font-size: 13pt;"> </span><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">judith@jhellerstein.com </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Skype ID:JudithHellerstein</span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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Dear Judith,<br>
<br>
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology
irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is
there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than
Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and
Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein
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<p>HI Raitme,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things
about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the
technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new
engagement tools approved and working within the system and
hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this
YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to
watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<div>Greetings to everyone<br>
<br>
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little
on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
<br>
<br>
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment
for events and interest group socialization, however, this
tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons<br>
<br>
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to
have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible
in many regions of the world where they do not even have
half this minimum).<br>
<br>
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level,
configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.<br>
<br>
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler
and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for
the price works in terms of the amount of time per
participant connected. <a href="https://gather.town/pricing" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gather.town/pricing</a><br>
<br>
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have
different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools,
offices) as well as allowing to create their own
configurations.<br>
<br>
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to
create inside that space, interactive elements to promote
the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification
of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces
for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor
can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for
meetings chat, audio, video)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://gather.town/features" moz-do-not-send="true">https://gather.town/features</a><br>
<br>
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up
to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.<br>
<br>
If some people want I can create a test space for those who
wish to enter and test it.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
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a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (<a href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</a>)
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<div>Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - <a href="https://www.virbela.com/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.virbela.com/</a>,
as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the
virtues of each virtual environment and if it really
generates a more healthy social networking scenario.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The most hardship might come when the bandwidth,
technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on
the table. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate
in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life,
Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who
manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>Recording breakout sessions,</li>
<li>Multimedia capabilities,</li>
<li>Bandwidth and interoperability standards,</li>
<li>equipment requirements and accessibility,</li>
<li> among a few.</li>
</ul>
<div>It sounds like a good idea to retake this
conversation, and setup some demos with these
companies.</div>
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I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of
suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a
process which makes implementation so much a challenge
to adopt new tools and ideas.
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<div>A recommendation can be made and I look forward
to the tools being tested and implemented. </div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks
Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago
and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing
it will be a loooong road before we get access
to such a thing in an official capacity but it
IS an innovative tool!</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [technology taskforce] How to
network outside Zoom sessions?</font>
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<div>Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board
today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative
impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the
At-Large Community, because the essential
community building social and networking
component part is missing from a virtual
meeting.<br>
In recent months I have attended several IGFs
and the UK IGF used an interesting social event
tool called REMO. More details on <a href="https://remo.co/" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://remo.co/</a><br>
A demo video is available on: <a href="https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y</a><br>
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I could imagine a break, for example, where each
of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC
member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run
by a RALO leadership each, and people can move
around from table to table. I wonder if this
could be fun and helpful?<br>
<br>
Perhaps should this be checked out at some
point? Perhaps there are other places that can
be tested out? SecondLife? Others?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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