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Yep, we can't make a good case to ICANN IT, if we don't really know the platform.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I am happy to get on the testing . </div>
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<div>Dear Judith,<br>
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this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown
and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings?<br>
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<p>Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will
succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions</p>
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<div>Greetings to everyone<br>
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On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
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A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons<br>
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- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).<br>
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- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.<br>
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However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected.
<a href="https://gather.town/pricing" target="_blank">https://gather.town/pricing</a><br>
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They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.<br>
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The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think
that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)<br>
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<a href="https://gather.town/features" target="_blank">https://gather.town/features</a><br>
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Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.<br>
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If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.<br>
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<div>Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - <a href="https://www.virbela.com/" target="_blank">
https://www.virbela.com/</a>, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.</div>
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<div>The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
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<div>I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.</div>
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<div>A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented. </div>
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<div>Dear Colleagues,<br>
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in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual
meeting.<br>
In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on
<a href="https://remo.co/" target="_blank">https://remo.co/</a><br>
A demo video is available on: <a href="https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y" target="_blank">
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I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?<br>
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Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others?<br>
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