<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all</div><div><br></div><div>SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper limit of 50 participants.</div><div><br></div><div>With kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>satish<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
Hello all,<br>
<br>
Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software
called "SpacialChat". In his words:<br>
<pre>And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction:
<a href="https://spatial.chat" target="_blank">https://spatial.chat</a>
</pre>
It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software
that TTF could test out.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div>On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and
Tobago Computer Society wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one :
Hopin <a href="https://hopin.to/" target="_blank">https://hopin.to/</a><br>
Here's the short 85 second teaser video <a href="https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4</a><br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and
it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN
meetings :<br>
<br>
- Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared,
resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting <br>
- main stage where the main sessions will take place - so
things like welcome session and key plenary sessions,
webinars </div>
<div>- Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions
with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout
sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can
always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special"
sessions so only certain persons will see it and not
publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could
have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their
internal staff coordination</div>
<div>- networking - you can directly video chat with any person
attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or
want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a
conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will
be paired with mentors or SMEs)</div>
<div>- Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can
network , you click on the booth and participate in the live
session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large
booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor
chat with participants<br>
- all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but
then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel
; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly
identified so you see the staff responses faster</div>
<div>- live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the
room" </div>
<div><br>
Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser
of the one I attended <a href="https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk</a><br>
and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : <a href="https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122</a><br>
<br>
So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which
I didn't see before. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dev Anand </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20,
Judith Hellerstein <<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto">Hi Olivier,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>OK you make a good point. we will test them,
irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a
couple of them for either the December or the January
meeting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best.</div>
<div>Judith<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad<span style="font-size:13pt"> </span>
<div><span style="font-size:13pt"><a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank">judith@jhellerstein.com</a> </span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr"> Dear Judith,<br>
<br>
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out
*all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to
approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions
more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo
is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown
and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF
meetings?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
<br>
<div>On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<p>HI Raitme,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard
good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are
limited to use the technologies that are approved.
We are trying to get some new engagement tools
approved and working within the system and
hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in
getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings
and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with
less bandwidth interruptions</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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<div>On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Greetings to everyone<br>
<br>
On this interesting point, I would like to
comment a little on my experience in some
virtual socialization environments <br>
<br>
A few years ago, second life was an excellent
3d environment for events and interest group
socialization, however, this tool is not
exactly inclusive for the following reasons<br>
<br>
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb
to be able to have a good experience, (this
unfortunately is not possible in many regions
of the world where they do not even have half
this minimum).<br>
<br>
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer
style level, configuration that is usually
quite expensive for most.<br>
<br>
However I would like to share a similar to
REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make
meetings of more than 25 people for the price
works in terms of the amount of time per
participant connected. <a href="https://gather.town/pricing" target="_blank">https://gather.town/pricing</a><br>
<br>
They also allow to create 2D environments
where they have different style
pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices)
as well as allowing to create their own
configurations.<br>
<br>
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that
allows to create inside that space,
interactive elements to promote the virtual
collaboration. since it foments the
gamification of all the spaces. also it allows
to create personal spaces for the assistants.
I think that this differentiating factor can
be interesting to explore (also has the
typical for meetings chat, audio, video)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://gather.town/features" target="_blank">https://gather.town/features</a><br>
<br>
Most importantly, you can have spaces for
small groups of up to 25 people for free as
long as they are used regularly.<br>
<br>
If some people want I can create a test space
for those who wish to enter and test it.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
</div>
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<div dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El lun., 19 de
oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (<a href="mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com" target="_blank">calderon.alfredo@gmail.com</a>)
escribió:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>Other organizations have been using
VIRBELA - <a href="https://www.virbela.com/" target="_blank">https://www.virbela.com/</a>,
as well. It is just a matter to continue
studying the virtues of each virtual
environment and if it really generates a
more healthy social networking scenario.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The most hardship might come when the
bandwidth, technical requirements, and
user- friendly issues are on the table. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I personally have ha]d the opportunity
to participate in mass meetings and
breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela
and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on
who manages the system, and what you wish
to accomplish.</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>Recording breakout sessions,</li>
<li>Multimedia capabilities,</li>
<li>Bandwidth and interoperability
standards,</li>
<li>equipment requirements and
accessibility,</li>
<li> among a few.</li>
</ul>
<div>It sounds like a good idea to retake
this conversation, and setup some demos
with these companies.</div>
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<div>Dear Friends and Colleagues, </div>
<div><br>
</div>
I agree this is an innovative tool but
the update of suggestion from At-Large
many times goes through a process which
makes implementation so much a challenge
to adopt new tools and ideas.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>A recommendation can be made and I
look forward to the tools being tested
and implemented. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Daniel</div>
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thanks
Olivier! I brought this tool up
some time ago and have mentioned
it to ICANN IT. I just thing it
will be a loooong road before we
get access to such a thing in an
official capacity but it IS an
innovative tool!</div>
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on behalf of Olivier MJ
Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank">ocl@gih.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19,
2020 4:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>
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<b>Subject:</b> [technology
taskforce] How to network
outside Zoom sessions?</font>
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<div>Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
in today's ALAC Session with the
ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza
explained the negative impact of
having virtual ICANN meetings on
the At-Large Community, because
the essential community building
social and networking component
part is missing from a virtual
meeting.<br>
In recent months I have attended
several IGFs and the UK IGF used
an interesting social event tool
called REMO. More details on <a href="https://remo.co/" target="_blank">https://remo.co/</a><br>
A demo video is available on: <a href="https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y" target="_blank">
https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y</a><br>
<br>
I could imagine a break, for
example, where each of the tables
on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC
member. And 3 tables on the other
floor are run by a RALO leadership
each, and people can move around
from table to table. I wonder if
this could be fun and helpful?<br>
<br>
Perhaps should this be checked out
at some point? Perhaps there are
other places that can be tested
out? SecondLife? Others?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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