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<p>HI All,</p>
<p>These are all great tools. I am in the process of scheduling the
next TTF meeting and aiming for the week of December 7 . ICANN
meeting, IGF and others have been taking up much of the time so
that is why the long wait since our last meeting. <br>
</p>
<p>So far, I have the tools of Spacial Chat. I have used this at
the Brazilian IGF Party and it is very cool. <br>
</p>
<p>Remo, Gather.town, Hopin.to Any other networking tools we should
put on the list?</p>
<p>Jonathan Zuck, any other tools to add to test them out<br>
</p>
<p>ITI will have given their demos a week earlier so would love to
have them on and then I would love to reschedule the Open data
talk</p>
<p>Also on the agenda is a talk about the YouTube Pilot and what
ICANN learned from there and whether this is going to be expanded
and continued from last time</p>
<p>So It looks like a full agenda, but still interested in hearing
your thoughts on what should be on the agenda for the December
Call</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/30/2020 9:04 AM, Satish Babu
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<div>Dear all</div>
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<div>SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper
limit of 50 participants.</div>
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<div>With kind regards,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15
PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div> Hello all,<br>
<br>
Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a
software called "SpacialChat". In his words:<br>
<pre>And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction:
<a href="https://spatial.chat" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://spatial.chat</a>
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It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of
software that TTF could test out.<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div>On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer
Society wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in
another one : Hopin <a href="https://hopin.to/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://hopin.to/</a><br>
Here's the short 85 second teaser video <a
href="https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4</a><br>
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<div>I attended a online conference (not related to
ICANN) and it had several features which to me would
fit well with ICANN meetings :<br>
<br>
- Reception Area where latest updates, links are
shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN
meeting <br>
- main stage where the main sessions will take place -
so things like welcome session and key plenary
sessions, webinars </div>
<div>- Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large
sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening
or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own
chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ;
you can have "special" sessions so only certain
persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the
ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room
to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal
staff coordination</div>
<div>- networking - you can directly video chat with any
person attending the event so when you go for a
"coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone,
you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly
(or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors
or SMEs)</div>
<div>- Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths"
you can network , you click on the booth and
participate in the live session with the vendor (so
you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have
a on demand video played and a vendor chat with
participants<br>
- all the while, there's a main chat which you can
hide but then also participate in so there's no
separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages
in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the
staff responses faster</div>
<div>- live polls can be done to get the "temperature of
the room" </div>
<div><br>
Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference
organiser of the one I attended <a
href="https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk</a><br>
and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin
features : <a
href="https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122</a><br>
<br>
So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a
way which I didn't see before. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So definitely this should also be looked at by the
TTF<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dev Anand </div>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Olivier,
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<div>OK you make a good point. we will test them,
irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule
them a couple of them for either the December or
the January meeting.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best.</div>
<div>Judith<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56
AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a
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<div dir="ltr"> Dear Judith,<br>
<br>
this is the Technology Task Force which tests
out *all* technology irrespective of what
ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube
is there to watch sessions more easily and
using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for
networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown
and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF
meetings?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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<div>On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein
wrote:<br>
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<p>HI Raitme,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your comments. I have
heard good things about REMO. However at
ICANN we are limited to use the
technologies that are approved. We are
trying to get some new engagement tools
approved and working within the system and
hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed
in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN
meetings and we hope it is a way to watch
sessions with less bandwidth interruptions</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Judith<br>
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<div>On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio
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<div>Greetings to everyone<br>
<br>
On this interesting point, I would
like to comment a little on my
experience in some virtual
socialization environments <br>
<br>
A few years ago, second life was an
excellent 3d environment for events
and interest group socialization,
however, this tool is not exactly
inclusive for the following reasons<br>
<br>
- It requires a bandwidth of at least
10 mb to be able to have a good
experience, (this unfortunately is not
possible in many regions of the world
where they do not even have half this
minimum).<br>
<br>
- requires having a computer almost at
a gamer style level, configuration
that is usually quite expensive for
most.<br>
<br>
However I would like to share a
similar to REMO but simpler and much
cheaper to make meetings of more than
25 people for the price works in terms
of the amount of time per participant
connected. <a
href="https://gather.town/pricing"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://gather.town/pricing</a><br>
<br>
They also allow to create 2D
environments where they have different
style pre-configurations (Campus,
schools, offices) as well as allowing
to create their own configurations.<br>
<br>
The interesting thing, to my
evaluation that allows to create
inside that space, interactive
elements to promote the virtual
collaboration. since it foments the
gamification of all the spaces. also
it allows to create personal spaces
for the assistants. I think that this
differentiating factor can be
interesting to explore (also has the
typical for meetings chat, audio,
video)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://gather.town/features"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://gather.town/features</a><br>
<br>
Most importantly, you can have spaces
for small groups of up to 25 people
for free as long as they are used
regularly.<br>
<br>
If some people want I can create a
test space for those who wish to enter
and test it.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
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06:09, Alfredo Calderon (<a
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<div>Other organizations have been
using VIRBELA - <a
href="https://www.virbela.com/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.virbela.com/</a>,
as well. It is just a matter to
continue studying the virtues of
each virtual environment and if it
really generates a more healthy
social networking scenario.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The most hardship might come
when the bandwidth, technical
requirements, and user- friendly
issues are on the table. <br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I personally have ha]d the
opportunity to participate in mass
meetings and breakout sessions in
Second Life, Virbela and Zoom.
Which is the Best? Depends on who
manages the system, and what you
wish to accomplish.</div>
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<ul>
<li>Recording breakout sessions,</li>
<li>Multimedia capabilities,</li>
<li>Bandwidth and
interoperability standards,</li>
<li>equipment requirements and
accessibility,</li>
<li> among a few.</li>
</ul>
<div>It sounds like a good idea to
retake this conversation, and
setup some demos with these
companies.</div>
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<div>Dear Friends and
Colleagues, </div>
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I agree this is an innovative
tool but the update of
suggestion from At-Large many
times goes through a process
which makes implementation so
much a challenge to adopt new
tools and ideas.
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<div>A recommendation can be
made and I look forward to the
tools being tested and
implemented. </div>
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<div>Daniel</div>
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Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan
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<div
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Olivier! I brought this
tool up some time ago and
have mentioned it to ICANN
IT. I just thing it will
be a loooong road before
we get access to such a
thing in an official
capacity but it IS an
innovative tool!</div>
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<b>Subject:</b>
[technology taskforce]
How to network outside
Zoom sessions?</font>
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<div>Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
in today's ALAC Session
with the ICANN Board
today, Joanna Kulesza
explained the negative
impact of having virtual
ICANN meetings on the
At-Large Community,
because the essential
community building social
and networking component
part is missing from a
virtual meeting.<br>
In recent months I have
attended several IGFs and
the UK IGF used an
interesting social event
tool called REMO. More
details on <a
href="https://remo.co/"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://remo.co/</a><br>
A demo video is available
on: <a
href="https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y"
target="_blank"
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https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y</a><br>
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I could imagine a break,
for example, where each of
the tables on the one
floor is run by 1 ALAC
member. And 3 tables on
the other floor are run by
a RALO leadership each,
and people can move around
from table to table. I
wonder if this could be
fun and helpful?<br>
<br>
Perhaps should this be
checked out at some point?
Perhaps there are other
places that can be tested
out? SecondLife? Others?<br>
Kindest regards,<br>
<br>
Olivier<br>
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